LUA has been around for ages.  A lot of places "had" to find a way to work
within the framework of LUA.  I think the last time I worked somewhere that
users had admin access to their PC's was 1999 or so...

On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 9:33 AM, John Aldrich
<jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com>wrote:

>  I think you’re trying to overcomplicate things. All I meant is that the
> end-user normally runs as a non-privileged user and so any application they
> run is going to run as a non-privileged user. Windows has had that ability
> since the NT days, but has it really been usable? IME, no. Most applications
> (other than Office) wanted to run as an admin, at least up until recent
> vintages of Windows.
>
>
>
> [image: John-Aldrich][image: Perception_2]
>
>
>
> *From:* Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 08, 2010 12:22 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Mac and Windows mix
>
>
>
> And we need to define what he means by “userspace”… as that infers that his
> statement means he believes admin-owned processes run in… kernel space?
>
>
>
> If so, that’s an incorrect understanding.
>
>
>
> -sc
>
>
>
> *From:* Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 08, 2010 10:27 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Mac and Windows mix
>
>
>
> This is only one, tiny, aspect of implementing a security model (reading
> Windows Internals by Russinovich/Solomon is highly recommended).
>
>
>
> That said, Windows NT has had the same model since the first released
> version (v3.1 back in 1993)
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> *From:* John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 8 September 2010 10:13 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Mac and Windows mix
>
>
>
> Basically, that users are not admins and that everything runs in
> “userspace” unless specifically run as an admin, including installation of
> software.
>
>
>
> [image: John-Aldrich][image: Perception_2]
>
>
>
> *From:* Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 08, 2010 8:49 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Mac and Windows mix
>
>
>
> What do you understand that model to be?
>
>
>
> -sc
>
>
>
> *From:* John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 07, 2010 3:15 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Mac and Windows mix
>
>
>
> Not to start a flame war or anything, but I was under the impression that
> Mac OS/X was significantly **more* *secure than a comparable Windows
> machine, due to the *nix security model? Asking for information here, trying
> to learn, not trying to start  a Mac Vs. Windows thread (there are enough of
> those, that I don’t need to start one! <G>)
>
>
>
> [image: John-Aldrich][image: Perception_2]
>
>
>
>
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