Might look at something like biopassword and then you're just relying on the
biometrics of someones typing on a keyboard...  Works very well in the demos
I've seen...

On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 5:31 AM, Ziots, Edward <ezi...@lifespan.org> wrote:

>  I agree that the fingerprint might not be the best biometric method, but
> its usually the most accepted method. Agree that is can be forged, but it
> does take some work.
>
>
>
> We all know passwords aren’t going to “cut it” but is the value of the
> assets you are trying to protect worth the increase controls and
> authentication that biometrics bring?
>
>
>
> Retina/Iris Scans are not well received as a biometric method but are
> highly accurate and almost impossible to force ( unless you  want to rip
> someones eyeball out of their socket and replace yours) ( Brings back Tom
> Cruise in Minority Report when he has his eyeballs replaced to bypass some
> biometric control)
>
>
>
> You also need to research the false acceptance vs false rejection rate for
> the biometric method you want to employ.
>
>
>
> Working in healthcare also, so I see your reasons, but I would look at
> possibily using Thin client, and housing the data on the backend, and
> provide the 2 factor authentication and auditing of the access to the
> EPHI/PII they are viewing  so there is nothing saved on the laptop (which
> should be encrypted to comply with HITECH and MASS CMR 201.17)
>
>
>
> Z
>
>
>
> Edward E. Ziots
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
> *From:* Jim Holmgren [mailto:jholmg...@xlhealth.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 15, 2010 4:18 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Biometric AD authentication
>
>
>
> I do understand that this is “relatively” easily fooled, but smart cards
> are not an option in this case (no built-in smart card reader).
>
>
>
> ‘Regular’ passwords are not going to cut it.   I’m looking for a
> combination of fingerprint and pin.
>
>
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 15, 2010 1:04 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Biometric AD authentication
>
>
>
> Fingerprint as an auth method is passé. It’s easily forged. I’m pretty sure
> Secunia published a study about that last year, finding that it didn’t
> matter if your reader was $25 or $500 – they were easily “broken”.
>
>
>
> Smartcard plus PIN seems to be winning.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Michael B. Smith
>
> Consultant and Exchange MVP
>
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/>
>
>
>
> *From:* Jim Holmgren [mailto:jholmg...@xlhealth.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:53 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Biometric AD authentication
>
>
>
> Greetings,
>
> I’ve been tasked with coming up with some solutions for biometric AD
> authentication.
>
> Quick background:
>
> We are in the healthcare field and will be providing tablet PCs to some of
> our practitioners.  We have been going around about how to provide
> authentication to these folks with minimal security compromises.  The
> tablets will be running Windows 7 Pro (Dell Latitude XT2’s at the moment) 
> locked
> down pretty tight, but to avoid the ‘sticky note’ password keeper on a
> very portable device that will contain PHI, we are looking at requiring
> login with a fingerprint and pin.
>
> Any suggestions/recommendations from those that have been-there-done-that
> with Biometric AD auth would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim
>
> Jim Holmgren
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