*Latent* racism? You don't know the half of it...yet. - WJR
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:06, Bill Humphries <nt...@hedgedigger.com> wrote: > Yeah, keeping up with the list this week has been entertaining. animation, > email footers, latent racism, debate team tryouts. good times. > > > Bill > > Andrew S. Baker wrote: > >> */>>/**/On another note, where’s our Friday Funny? TGIF!/* >> >> You actually need a Friday one? We've been running an all week special >> this week. Didn't you notice? >> >> *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) <http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker> >> *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...* >> * * >> >> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle < >> jra...@eaglemds.com <mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote: >> >> Agreed that it is not not fair to compare Belkin to >> Avovent/Raritan. You hit the nail on the head by detailing what I >> was trying to convey in my very brief post. Someone saying, “I >> just need a KVM, why can’t I buy [insert dirt cheap option here]? >> Why do I need to spend $x,000?” Well for some applications, it >> might be fine, but it all depends on the application of said >> device and how much frustration you’re willing to live with. >> >> >> On another note, where’s our Friday Funny? TGIF! >> >> >> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE >> Technology Coordinator >> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA_ >> _ >> jra...@eaglemds.com_ >> _www.eaglemds.com >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com >> <mailto:asbz...@gmail.com>] >> *Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 10:07 AM >> >> >> *To:* NT System Admin Issues >> *Subject:* Re: OT KVM recommondation >> >> >> Across classes of equipment, you will typically get what you pay >> for. Across classes, as opposed to within the class. >> >> >> That is to say, MOST servers that cost $1000-3000 are different >> enough from the ones costing $6000-$15000 that the sentiment is >> correct. >> >> >> However, *within* the same class of system or machine or device -- >> within the tier 1 level, or within the tier 2 level -- it is >> possible for cost alone to be insufficient as a determinant of >> quality or value. >> >> >> I'd never compare a Belkin with an Avocent, except maybe at the >> very lowest end of the Avocent line. TrendNet, Belkin, and a >> few others play in that consumer/SOHO space, and within that space >> price is not always the differentiator. >> >> >> While Avocent and Raritan are much more price comparable today, >> years ago, Cybex/Avocent was better priced that Raritan AND of >> better quality. But they were in the same enterprise level >> class... :) >> >> And I still greatly prefer Avocent. >> >> >> >> **ASB **(My XeeSM Profile) <http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker> >> **Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...** >> ** ** >> >> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle >> <jra...@eaglemds.com <mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote: >> >> LOL, +1 >> >> Unlike the Cisco/HP discussion, I believe most of us (who manage >> more than 3 or 4 servers via one device frequently) will likely >> concur that in the area of KVM, you will usually, generally get >> what you pay for....I am open to evidence supporting the contrary. >> :-) >> >> Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE >> >> Thumb-typed from my HTC Incredible (and yes, it really is) Droid. >> Please excuse brevity & any misspellings. >> >> ----- Reply message ----- >> From: "Jonathan Link" <jonathan.l...@gmail.com >> <mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com>> >> Date: Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:08 am >> >> Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation >> >> To: "NT System Admin Issues" >> <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com >> <mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>> >> >> What, they only lockup the server once a month now? >> >> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Andrew S. Baker >> <asbz...@gmail.com >> <mailto:asbz...@gmail.com><mailto:asbz...@gmail.com >> <mailto:asbz...@gmail.com>>> wrote: >> >> Yep. Although, Belkin has gotten a little better in recent years. >> A little. >> >> -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker<http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker> >> >> >> Sent from my Motorola Droid >> >> On Sep 16, 2010 4:56 PM, "Raper, Jonathan - Eagle" >> <jra...@eaglemds.com >> <mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com><mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com >> <mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>>> wrote: >> I've had _BAD_ experience with Belkin's being _REALLY_ flaky. >> (Isn't that who makes OmniView?) >> >> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE >> Technology Coordinator >> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA >> jra...@e... >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com >> <mailto:cluster...@gmail.com><mailto:cluster...@gmail.com >> <mailto:cluster...@gmail.com>>] >> >> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:25 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: Re: OT KVM recommonda... >> >> My reply about the KVM cables where regarding the cables for the >> Raritan, >> you must have thought I wa... >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Matthew W. Ross" <mr...@ephrataschools.org >> <mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org><mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org >> <mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org>>> >> To: "NT System Admin... >> >> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:40 PM >> Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation >> >> >> That's not right... Newegg has the 6ft USB ones for $16 each... >> >> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ... >> >> --Matt Ross >> Ephrata School District >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: James Kerr >> >> [mailto:clusterp <mailto:clusterp>.<mailto:clusterp >> <mailto:clusterp>.>.. >> >> Sent: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 >> >> 11:31:45 -0700 >> Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation >> >> >> > Holy crap the cables are $146 each!!! >> > >> > >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> >> > From: "Matthew W. 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