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 - WJR


On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:06, Bill Humphries <nt...@hedgedigger.com> wrote:

> Yeah, keeping up with the list this week has been entertaining.  animation,
> email footers, latent racism, debate team tryouts.  good times.
>
>
> Bill
>
> Andrew S. Baker wrote:
>
>> */>>/**/On another note, where’s our Friday Funny? TGIF!/*
>>
>> You actually need a Friday one?  We've been running an all week special
>> this week.  Didn't you notice?
>>
>> *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) <http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker>
>> *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...*
>> * *
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle <
>> jra...@eaglemds.com <mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
>>
>>    Agreed that it is not not fair to compare Belkin to
>>    Avovent/Raritan. You hit the nail on the head by detailing what I
>>    was trying to convey in my very brief post. Someone saying, “I
>>    just need a KVM, why can’t I buy [insert dirt cheap option here]?
>>    Why do I need to spend $x,000?” Well for some applications, it
>>    might be fine, but it all depends on the application of said
>>    device and how much frustration you’re willing to live with.
>>
>>
>>    On another note, where’s our Friday Funny? TGIF!
>>
>>
>>    Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
>>    Technology Coordinator
>>    Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA_
>>    _
>>    jra...@eaglemds.com_
>>    _www.eaglemds.com
>>
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>>
>>    *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com
>>    <mailto:asbz...@gmail.com>]
>>    *Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 10:07 AM
>>
>>
>>    *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>    *Subject:* Re: OT KVM recommondation
>>
>>
>>    Across classes of equipment, you will typically get what you pay
>>    for.  Across classes, as opposed to within the class.
>>
>>
>>    That is to say, MOST servers that cost $1000-3000 are different
>>    enough from the ones costing $6000-$15000 that the sentiment is
>>    correct.
>>
>>
>>    However, *within* the same class of system or machine or device --
>>    within the tier 1 level, or within the tier 2 level -- it is
>>    possible for cost alone to be insufficient as a determinant of
>>    quality or value.
>>
>>
>>    I'd never compare a Belkin with an Avocent, except maybe at the
>>    very lowest end of the Avocent line.    TrendNet, Belkin, and a
>>    few others play in that consumer/SOHO space, and within that space
>>    price is not always the differentiator.
>>
>>
>>    While Avocent and Raritan are much more price comparable today,
>>    years ago, Cybex/Avocent was better priced that Raritan AND of
>>    better quality.  But they were in the same enterprise level
>>    class... :)
>>
>>    And I still greatly prefer Avocent.
>>
>>
>>
>>    **ASB **(My XeeSM Profile) <http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker>
>>    **Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...**
>>    ** **
>>
>>    On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
>>    <jra...@eaglemds.com <mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
>>
>>    LOL, +1
>>
>>    Unlike the Cisco/HP discussion, I believe most of us (who manage
>>    more than 3 or 4 servers via one device frequently) will likely
>>    concur that in the area of KVM, you will usually, generally get
>>    what you pay for....I am open to evidence supporting the contrary.
>>     :-)
>>
>>    Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE
>>
>>    Thumb-typed from my HTC Incredible (and yes, it really is) Droid.
>>    Please excuse brevity & any misspellings.
>>
>>    ----- Reply message -----
>>    From: "Jonathan Link" <jonathan.l...@gmail.com
>>    <mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com>>
>>    Date: Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:08 am
>>
>>    Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation
>>
>>    To: "NT System Admin Issues"
>>    <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
>>    <mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
>>
>>    What, they only lockup the server once a month now?
>>
>>    On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Andrew S. Baker
>>    <asbz...@gmail.com
>>    <mailto:asbz...@gmail.com><mailto:asbz...@gmail.com
>>    <mailto:asbz...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>
>>    Yep.  Although, Belkin has gotten a little better in recent years.
>>     A little.
>>
>>    -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker<http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker>
>>
>>
>>    Sent from my Motorola Droid
>>
>>    On Sep 16, 2010 4:56 PM, "Raper, Jonathan - Eagle"
>>    <jra...@eaglemds.com
>>    <mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com><mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com
>>    <mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>>> wrote:
>>    I've had _BAD_ experience with Belkin's being _REALLY_ flaky.
>>    (Isn't that who makes OmniView?)
>>
>>    Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
>>    Technology Coordinator
>>    Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
>>    jra...@e...
>>
>>    -----Original Message-----
>>
>>    From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com
>>    <mailto:cluster...@gmail.com><mailto:cluster...@gmail.com
>>    <mailto:cluster...@gmail.com>>]
>>
>>    Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:25 PM
>>    To: NT System Admin Issues
>>    Subject: Re: OT KVM recommonda...
>>
>>    My reply about the KVM cables where regarding the cables for the
>>    Raritan,
>>    you must have thought I wa...
>>
>>    ----- Original Message -----
>>
>>    From: "Matthew W. Ross" <mr...@ephrataschools.org
>>    <mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org><mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org
>>    <mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org>>>
>>    To: "NT System Admin...
>>
>>    Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:40 PM
>>    Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation
>>
>>
>>    That's not right... Newegg has the 6ft USB ones for $16 each...
>>
>>    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...
>>
>>    --Matt Ross
>>    Ephrata School District
>>
>>
>>    ----- Original Message -----
>>    From: James Kerr
>>
>>    [mailto:clusterp <mailto:clusterp>.<mailto:clusterp
>>    <mailto:clusterp>.>..
>>
>>    Sent: Thu, 16 Sep 2010
>>
>>    11:31:45 -0700
>>    Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation
>>
>>
>>    > Holy crap the cables are $146 each!!!
>>    >
>>    >
>>
>>    > ----- Original Message -----
>>
>>    > From: "Matthew W. Ross" <mr...@ephrataschools.org
>>    <mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org><mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org
>>    <mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org>>>
>>    > To: "NT System...
>>
>>    >
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