Which comments do you object to personally then?  I'm not in need of
justification either.

 - WJR


On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:45, Paul Hutchings <paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk>wrote:

> If you think that warrants some of your comments so be it, personally I
> don’t.
>
>
>
> *From:* William J. Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 22 September 2010 18:42
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Intel wants to charge to unlock features already on your
> CPU
>
>
>
> And I'm all for that...right up until I get an off list, uninvited mind
> you, reply in my inbox.
>
> At that point you've crossed over whether or not "someone is wrong on the
> Internet"
>
> Queue -sc with the XKCD link.
>
>
> WJR
> - from my Crackberry.
>
> "If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck."
> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *"Paul Hutchings" <paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk>
>
> *Date: *Wed, 22 Sep 2010 18:31:47 +0100
>
> *To: *NT System Admin Issues<ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
>
> *ReplyTo: *"NT System Admin Issues" <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
> >
>
> *Subject: *RE: Intel wants to charge to unlock features already on your
> CPU
>
>
>
> You know I haven’t been on this list too long but is this honestly what we
> want to see?
>
>
>
> If the guy’s “wrong” he’s wrong, big deal, life’s a little too short to get
> too hung up on who’s right out there on the internet.
>
>
>
> *From:* Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
> *Sent:* 22 September 2010 18:23
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Intel wants to charge to unlock features already on your
> CPU
>
>
>
> This conclusion is eerily like the “Application vs. OS” ending.
>
>
>
> I’m beginning to see a trend here…
>
>
>
> -sc
>
>
>
> *From:* William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 22, 2010 12:52 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Intel wants to charge to unlock features already on your
> CPU
>
>
>
> You realize, of course, Mr. Carpet has already said "Good Day!" right?
>
>  - WJR
>
> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 10:53, Steven M. Caesare <scaes...@caesare.com>
> wrote:
>
> The difference being, is that you don't tend to support your opinions
> (which you tend to assert strongly) with reason or facts.
>
> When given a solid reason that challenges your assertion, instead of
> addressing it, you alter the discussion, often using analogies that merely
> serve to re-state your existing opinion, rather than addressing the
> underlying challenge to your opinion.
>
> In this case, multiple experienced people explained why this model would be
> beneficial to you. Yet, AFAIK, you didn't acknowledge any of those logic
> cases, and instead went for the overused car analogy, and then eventually
> shifted your "argument" to being concerned that the consumer wouldn't be
> adequately educated about the potential upgrade options (which is quite
> different than your initial "concern").
>
> "You keep making assertions that don't stand up to facts and then bail.
>
> Why?"
>
> -sc
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 11:19 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Intel wants to charge to unlock features already on your CPU
> >
> > *shrug* This discussion has gone on for awhile and neither side is going
> to be
> > able to sway the other. I see no need to drag it out and keep it going
> when
> > we're just going to disagree. I've stated my position, I've tried various
> > examples to explain why I think it's a bad idea, and vice versa, but
> neither
> > side has budged their position. Why drag it out and risk getting hateful
> over
> > it?
> >
> > You're entitled to your opinion, I'm entitled to mine. We're both
> entitled to
> > try and convince the other that they are wrong, but in the end, if we
> can't
> > convince each other, the best thing to do is agree to disagree.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 11:02 AM
>
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: Intel wants to charge to unlock features already on your CPU
> >
> > Nice cop out.
> >
> >  - WJR
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 08:56, John Aldrich <
> jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com>
> > wrote:
> > I think we're going to have to agree to disagree.
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 9:45 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Intel wants to charge to unlock features already on your CPU
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, 22 September 2010 8:52 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Intel wants to charge to unlock features already on your CPU
> >
> > > Here's something I thought of... Sure you'll be able to buy an "unlock"
> > > code, but will the end-user realize that they are getting the same
> > physical
> > > hardware as someone who pays more and know that they can unlock
> > better
> > > performance? Thinking about the folks who go into Best Buy or WalMart
> > > to buy a new computer (this appears to be the market that this new
> > "feature"
> > is
> > > aimed at.) My thought is that they're going to buy whatever is on the
> > shelf
> > > and not realize that they just need to buy an "upgrade"/unlock code to
> > enable
> > > better performance.
> > >
> > > How is that going to help the end-user?
> >
> > As long as Walmart doesn't say that the CPU is Quad-Core, but neglect to
> tell
> > you that you have to pay extra.
> >
> > If Walmart says that the CPU is dual core, 2GHz and supports VT, and it
> costs
> > $x, then why should anyone care that the CPU can do extra for additional
> > payment.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Ken
>
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