Ok. Back to the drawing board. I emailed Kronos support and they say that
TKC is NOT supported on virtual server. :-( I suppose I could lie to them
and create a virtual server and install it there anyway, but it may be
better to just either switch to a different time and attendance product or
buy a physical server. :-(




-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 10:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Small server

And why the hate for Software RAID? Let me be more specific: What is your
definition of "Software RAID"?

Window's built in RAID capabilities? (100% Software RAID)
...or...
Inexpensive "Host RAID"? These are usually built into chipsets or cheap RAID
cards. (Mostly software)

If we're talking Window's built in software RAID, I would agree: Avoid at
all costs. I have not had much experience with it, but the little I did have
was disappointing... Not to mention the general dislike by the tech
community of MS's RAIDs.

The Host RAIDs are hit and miss, mostly miss. I have had good experience
with Intel's RAID chipsets, but usually not for anything more than a RAID 1.
The recent "Matrix RAID" chipsets from intel have been excellent. Also, the
overhead from running a Host Raid is not as bad as it used to be. Hard drive
speeds have increased, but not at the scale of CPU power. So for a "small
server" like what John asked, I would definitely consider it.

But if a real RAID solution was only $100 more, I'd skip Host RAID and go
for it. But we all know most real hardware RAIDs are not that cheap. It all
depends on what you're willing to spend.

Now, if we were talking Linux, I'd be recommending software RAID over
everything but the highest-end RAID controllers.


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


----- Original Message -----
From: Erik Goldoff
[mailto:egold...@gmail.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Tue, 28 Sep 2010
07:19:00 -0700
Subject: Re: Small server


> curious, why do you shun SATA ?
> 
> On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 10:14 AM, James Kerr <cluster...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Kind of important software. I would make sure the server was hardware
> RAID1
> > with 2 hot swap SAS drives NOT SATA at a minimum just for the
redundancy.
> No
> > software RAID. Whats wrong with SCSI?
> >
> > James
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Aldrich" <
> > jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com>
> > To: "NT System Admin Issues" <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 10:08 AM
> > Subject: RE: Small server
> >
> >
> >
> > Sorry. I guess I should have specified this is for Kronos Time Keeper
> > Central.
> >
> > Server hardware requirements are very basic. It has to be capable of
> > running
> > Windows 2000. It's not a very resource-intensive software. It's got a
> small
> > DB and has to be capable of allowing multiple people to access it over
the
> > network (via "client" software loaded on their machine) The machine
that's
> > currently running the time and attendance software is a P4 2.8Ghz with 2
> > Gig
> > of RAM running Windows 2000. My main problem is that it's running off a
> > single HDD, and a SCSI drive at that.
> > Cut/paste from the system requirements document:
> > 750 Mhz+ 1 Gigabyte NT4 , 2000 Server 2003 Server 1 Gigabyte
> > Free disk space.
> >
> > As you can see it's very basic requirements. TKC has not been updated in
a
> > LONG time and probably won't be updated ever again. I spoke with a
support
> > engineer, and he said that he's seen it running on Windows XP, but
that's
> > not supported, as XP is not a "server" O/S, which is required for
multiple
> > clients accessing the machine at one time.
> >
> > Thanks... Hope this answers your questions WRT system requirements.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 9:59 AM
> >
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Small server
> >
> > Once again you give us absolutely no app requirements.
> >
> > Therefore the answer is: maybe.
> >
> > -sc
> >
> > From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 9:55 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Small server
> >
> > I am looking at getting a small server running Windows Server 2003, so I
> > can
> > have my time and attendance running on a supported O/S. Looking at
Dell's
> > Premier site, the least expensive option only offers a Software RAID5,
> > unless I'm mis-reading the options. Would you guys rather have a
Hardware
> > RAID0 / RAID1 or a software RAID5?
> >
> > Any other options I should be looking at for a small server? We're
> > primarily
> > a Dell shop here, but I can look at others, including "white box"
servers,
> > so long as I can get some sort of warranty / hardware support on it.
> >
> >
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