I hear ya. Believe it or not, actually, there is.
Although I detected a hint of sarcasm, I'll provide the info anyway... There is a trainer cert and a support cert (or at least a course). Training course is 3 weeks on site at eCW headquarters, and support course is 2 weeks on site, also at eCW headquarters. Full completion of the training course yields a certificate stating that you are just as qualified to train people how to use the system as their in-house trainers. Ask your account rep for information. We sent 2 of our people to the trainer course, and 2 of our server admins to the support course. Although expensive, I'd say it was worthwhile. (Everything is relative.) Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA jra...@eaglemds.com www.eaglemds.com -----Original Message----- From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:d...@parkviewmc.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 11:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Early Friday Funny... Hey Jonathan is there an eclinicalworks cert? I need to be certifiably insane to work on this crap software. :) -----Original Message----- From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 9:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Early Friday Funny... L4!!!!! Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA jra...@eaglemds.com www.eaglemds.com ________________________________________ From: itli...@imcu.com [mailto:itli...@imcu.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 10:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Early Friday Funny... Something an old Gunny told me in the Marines was I don't need you to know every little detail about every little thing we do. I do need you to know where to look and when to ask questions if you don't know where to look for the answers. So I was taking my 2ton drivers exam and the administrator didn't like my answer of its in the book. So I told the Gunny about this and he made the administrator count it correctly because things change sometimes daily and the only what to know the correct answer is to look it up. ________________________________________ From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Posted At: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 10:36 AM Posted To: itli...@imcu.com Conversation: OT: Early Friday Funny... Subject: RE: OT: Early Friday Funny... Pffff I understand what you are saying BUT - no one person can know it all. It's not possible. Maybe back in NT4... But no way, now. The backend, the possible infrastructure and its feature content of Windows Servers is just WAY too big. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: David Lum [mailto:david....@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 10:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Early Friday Funny... One reason I'll never claim to be an expert - the last test I took (ok it was years ago) I failed by what must have been one question, two TOPS. I can explain DNS, DHCP, GPO's, why and how they work, FSMO roles and what they are and do, blah blah blah, but I couldn't tell you where the default log file location is for IIS w/out looking it up, etc. The thing that really kills me is when I know something an MCSE doesn't, sometimes it's really basic-to-me stuff like using restricted groups in GPO's or creating a DHCP reservation, I always figure the MS certified dude should be schooling me. Dave From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 6:46 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Early Friday Funny... The classic debate of the value of certs or degrees. :) They don't guarantee knowledge, but they generally do show that the person who holds them was willing to invest time and money in themselves. And while there are certainly exceptions, my experience has been that on the whole the people with the certs/degrees are more knowledgeable. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 9:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Early Friday Funny... Reminds me of one LAN Admin candidate I interviewed a few years back for a senior position. His resume showed certifications out the ying-yang, MS, Cisco, A+, etc ... I normally asked how many nodes on a 27 bit subnet mask, but that stumped him, so I asked him how many nodes on a standard Class C subnet. His answer : "Between 200 and 300" OK, so technically correct, but not accurate. So I asked: " Would you accept the job with a salary between $30k and $60k to start ?" Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, & Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! 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