Yes, that is true....but if the network isn't fully operational and the user
logs in, software installation policy won't occur, as it is supposed to
happen before login, as you say. I've seen it do the software install when
the user logs back out and goes to log in again.

On 13 October 2010 15:46, John Hornbuckle
<john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us>wrote:

> The policy for installing the software is a computer policy, not a user
> policy—so it should be happening before login ever occurs.
>
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>
> The user policies and scripts work just fine, all the time. Because it
> seems that once you get to the login screen, things are up and running—but
> the system seems to have given up on processing computer policies at that
> point.
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>
> *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 13, 2010 10:43 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Group Policy Problems Over Wireless
>
>
>
> Does logging in twice initiate the software install, or not?
>
> On 13 October 2010 15:39, John Hornbuckle <
> john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us> wrote:
>
> There’s “Always wait for the network at computer startup and logon,” but
> I’ve already got that enabled.
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>
> John
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> *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 13, 2010 10:37 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Group Policy Problems Over Wireless
>
>
>
> isn't there a "wait for the network to initialize" GPO setting that you can
> put down so that it won't try to install software until the network is fully
> operational?
>
> I can't get into GPMC at the moment to confirm - keeps crashing cos of the
> Wyse Device Manager snap-in. Grrr
>
> On 13 October 2010 15:25, John Hornbuckle <
> john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us> wrote:
>
> Short version:
>
> *Is there a trick to improving group policy processing when accessing the
> network wirelessly?*
>
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>
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>
> Long version:
>
> We have a lab with machines that have Broadcom wireless NICs in them. Vista
> OS, connecting to Server 2008 R2 DC.
>
>
>
> I’m trying to deploy a piece of software to these machines via Group
> Policy. I have things setup so that if the machine is a member of a certain
> group, the software is deployed. Unfortunately, it only worked correctly on
> one of the machines—on all the rest, the software isn’t being deployed.
>
>
>
> So I connect to any of the machines that didn’t get the software, and run
> gpresult. It doesn’t show me that those machines are members of the group
> that gets the software. But I know they are; I’ve confirmed in ADUC on the
> DC. They’re just not picking up group membership.
>
>
>
> Looking at the event log for events that happen around startup, I see
> things that make me think group policy processing is trying to happen prior
> to the wireless network being initialized. Things like:
>
>
>
> Event ID 5719 (There are currently no logon servers available to service
> the logon request.)
>
> Event ID 129 (NtpClient was unable to set a domain peer to use as a time
> source because of discovery error.)
>
> Event ID 1129 (The processing of Group Policy failed because of lack of
> network connectivity to a domain controller.)
>
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>
> Connectivity to the DC is fine once you get the [Ctrl] + [Alt] + [Del]
> window. You can log in (including as someone who has never logged into the
> machine before), ping the DC, browse to \\domain\syvol, and so on. It’s just
> that at that point, group policy processing seems to have given up. My
> machines aren’t figuring out that they’ve been added to a new group.
>
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> John Hornbuckle
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rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
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