+ a billion.  There are many oddities to be had because of channel
auto-selection, especially depending on the frequency it performs the
congestion check.  Like servers, hard code it and deal with connectivity
issues as they come.

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ME2


On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 7:13 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle <
jra...@eaglemds.com> wrote:

>  **headdesk**
>
>
>
> IMO…never set your APs to Auto. Spend the time, or the money, or both, for
> a decent site survey. Use only channels 1, 6, & 11, and lay your APs out so
> that the APs on the same channels are not close to each other, because too
> much signal overlap on the same channel will cause RF collision.
>
>
>
> Once setup, review periodically (quarterly, semi-annually, annually, etc)
> to make sure no one has added any wireless in the area that would interfere
> (or use the utilities built in if you have something like Cisco Wireless
> Control System with centralized controllers). Keep in mind that RF noise is
> additive. Any NON 802.11 RF signal will be considered noise, and the more
> there is, the more it will work against your 802.11 equipment - decreasing
> the signal-to-noise ratio (SNR) and increasing the chances of wireless data
> traffic corruption.
>
>
>
> Side note: There are enough channels in the 802.11a spectrum (5GHz) that
> channel plans are not usually necessary.
>
>
>
> Furthermore…..Anyone dealing with wireless networks need to understand SNR
> (Signal to Noise Ratio) and how it impacts wireless performance. It’s like
> trying to talk with another adult in the same room when you have a couple of
> chatty children in the same room. You can carry on a conversation with
> another adult across the room, but if you double the number of children, you
> have to raise your voice. Add enough children, and no matter how loudly you
> shout, the other adult will never hear you, and vice versa…
>
>
>
> Here’s a link that does a good job of explaining it and provides some
> guidelines:
>
>
>
> wi-fiplanet.com - How to: Define Minimum SNR Values for Signal 
> Coverage<http://www.wi-fiplanet.com/tutorials/article.php/3743986/How-to-Define-Minimum-SNR-Values-for-Signal-Coverage.htm>
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA*
> *jra...@eaglemds.com*
> *www.eaglemds.com
>   ------------------------------
>
> *From:* John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:50 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Update: Group Policy Problems Over Wireless
>
>
>
> No firm resolution on this yet, but possibly a bit of progress.
>
>
>
> I kept thinking about the problems we were having in this lab. The
> computers are the same computers we had in the lab last year, and last year
> we didn’t have these problems. So, what changed? Two things: we replaced the
> WAPs that serve the lab with newer models, and more WAPs were installed in
> that area of the building.
>
>
>
> So I got to thinking that maybe the issue was an incompatibility between
> Broadcom NICs and the new WAPs, or an issue caused by too many WAPs being in
> the same vicinity. But we have another lab in a different area of the
> building that has the exact same WAPs and the exact same computers—but no
> problems. So that left the latter possibility—lots of WAPs stepping on one
> another’s toes—as the prime culprit.
>
>
>
> The WAPs are Cisco/Linksys, and they all default to the same channel. I
> changed the ones in the area that was having the problem to “auto,” but that
> didn’t seem to really help. So next I forced the WAPs that serve the lab to
> “g” rather than “b/g/n.” As moment, everything is working fine. My tech and
> I will be watching throughout the week, and if things are still working
> after a few days we’ll consider the issue resolved.
>
>
>
>
>
> John
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
> *Subject:* Group Policy Problems Over Wireless
>
>
>
> Short version:
>
> *Is there a trick to improving group policy processing when accessing the
> network wirelessly?*
>
>
>
>
>
> Long version:
>
> We have a lab with machines that have Broadcom wireless NICs in them. Vista
> OS, connecting to Server 2008 R2 DC.
>
>
>
> I’m trying to deploy a piece of software to these machines via Group
> Policy. I have things setup so that if the machine is a member of a certain
> group, the software is deployed. Unfortunately, it only worked correctly on
> one of the machines—on all the rest, the software isn’t being deployed.
>
>
>
> So I connect to any of the machines that didn’t get the software, and run
> gpresult. It doesn’t show me that those machines are members of the group
> that gets the software. But I know they are; I’ve confirmed in ADUC on the
> DC. They’re just not picking up group membership.
>
>
>
> Looking at the event log for events that happen around startup, I see
> things that make me think group policy processing is trying to happen prior
> to the wireless network being initialized. Things like:
>
>
>
> Event ID 5719 (There are currently no logon servers available to service
> the logon request.)
>
> Event ID 129 (NtpClient was unable to set a domain peer to use as a time
> source because of discovery error.)
>
> Event ID 1129 (The processing of Group Policy failed because of lack of
> network connectivity to a domain controller.)
>
>
>
> Connectivity to the DC is fine once you get the [Ctrl] + [Alt] + [Del]
> window. You can log in (including as someone who has never logged into the
> machine before), ping the DC, browse to \\domain\syvol, and so on. It’s
> just that at that point, group policy processing seems to have given up. My
> machines aren’t figuring out that they’ve been added to a new group.
>
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