That's probably because the problem is usually solved by putting in an
analog to iptv appliance and having a set top box per tv. Which
admittedly isn't what you were looking for. But as long as your
network can handle it, it'll probably scale a whole lot better. And
not drain 10% as much of your time.

-Anders

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On 9 dec 2010, at 17:22, "Matthew W. Ross" <mr...@ephrataschools.org> wrote:

> About 5 minutes after I posted my question, I remembered MythTV. I have never 
> played with it, but I am aware of it's capabilities. It is an excellent 
> solution to this idea.
>
> I think I'll be doing a bit of searching for MythTV "premade" systems this 
> morning, or see if there is an outfit that provides the MythTV service with 
> comercial support. That might just fit the bill.
>
> I am surprised that there are not other vendors (such as Hauppauge) do not 
> have a version of this already available in a couple of plug-and-play boxes.
>
>
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kramer, Jack
> [mailto:jack.kra...@ur.msu.edu]
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> [mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
> Sent: Thu, 09 Dec 2010
> 06:01:24 -0800
> Subject: Re: Distributing TV over IP
>
>
>> Have you ever heard of MythTV? It's a linux program (which has since
>> spawned several media specific distributions) that acts as sort of a
>> distributed DVR - you have a "backend" with tuners and storage and then as
>> many "frontends" as you want which display the content. You would need as
>> many tuners as you want to be able to watch simultaneous channels, and at
>> least enough storage to handle the amount of simultaneous watching you
>> want since MythTV will buffer to HDD and then send that buffered content
>> to the frontends. You can have multiple backends to allow for more tuners
>> than will fit in a single physical box. (Remember that a tuner can only
>> watch one channel at a time because each channel is a different frequency
>> on the cable.)
>>
>> A good tuner card for Myth is the Hauppauge WinTV PVR 500 - it's a
>> hardware encoder card so the host CPU won't take a big hit from the tuning
>> process and it fits two analog tuners on one PCI board. Grab that and a
>> box with a lot of PCI slots - a full ATX board can have up to six? - and a
>> reasonable CPU (my old backend had a single core 2.2ghz Athalon). Stuff a
>> couple of 1 or 2 TB HDDs in there to provide for local backend storage. If
>> you're not planning on recording shows you don't have to worry about
>> transcoding from the native MPEG-2 that the card will record in because
>> Myth will clear caches over 24 hours old. If you pack the box full of 6
>> tuner cards, that gets you 12 simultaneous channels - or record 11
>> programs and watch 1, etc. Setup is very simple. Digital tuning is easy
>> enough too - you can just buy a tuner capable of decoding ClearQAM and
>> working with MythTV or grab a product called the HDHomeRun - it's an
>> Ethernet-attached dual ClearQAM/ATSC (over the air HD) tuner that's fully
>> MythTV compatible.
>>
>> Frontends are a little more difficult since you'll need a machine with
>> some sort of analog TV out if you intend on using CRTs - older NVidia
>> cards are good for that and they also provided accelerated decoding of
>> MPEG-2 video. If you have flat panels anything with a modern CPU/GPU works
>> - you can do it on pretty much any Intel Atom-based system if you don't
>> intend to have more than 720p content, and an Atom with a NVidia ION GPU
>> will work for 1080i/p content. (Or better, of course.) The only part that
>> gets interesting is setting up an IR remote control - you'll use the LIRC
>> package to do that and you'll have to find a control script that supports
>> your remote. Not usually that difficult since most IR remotes for computer
>> these days use the Microsoft MCE remote standard that they invented for
>> Media Center. Newegg is a good place for those.
>>
>> My TV setup at home is kind of similar to what you want - I have a backend
>> with 4 tuners that records the inbound TV and then multiple frontends
>> (living room, bedroom, my workstation, laptop, etc) that attach back to
>> that box. I have my system setup to record shows based on my preferences
>> using the DVR features which it then transcodes to MPEG-4 for storage - I
>> can do a couple hundred hours on the 500GB disk in that machine. Might be
>> nice to offer to your teachers so they could record programs for their
>> classes and then show them at a later date?
>>
>> ----
>> Jack Kramer
>> Computer Systems Specialist
>> University Relations, Michigan State University
>> w: 517-884-1231 / c: 248-635-4955
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/8/10 7:41 PM, "Matthew W. Ross" <mr...@ephrataschools.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I have an interesting one for the list...
>>>
>>> Our school district has cable television available to each school through
>>> the local cable company. We have a new(er) school which we are now
>>> looking at providing television services. In our older schools, the cable
>>> company ran coax to each classroom with a centralized industrial
>>> splitter... giving many channels a grainy, less than ideal image.
>>>
>>> Hey, it's the 21's century... can I push the video over IP?
>>>
>>> Here's what I'm envisioning: Cable comes into our MDF, and we have some
>>> kind of encoder that takes the signal. Then, throughout a building we
>>> have some decoders which happily take the feed from the encoder and play
>>> it to whatever kind of TV it's plugged into. The decoder would be able to
>>> control which channel the encoder is sending... and for extra points the
>>> decoder's remote can control the TV's power and volume.
>>>
>>> Does such a solution exist?
>>>
>>> Some more details: The cable company only provides basic cable for free,
>>> which does _not_ require one of their own decoding boxes. I know that the
>>> signal that the basic cable provides is ye-old-analogue signaling, plus a
>>> few of the new digital channels. My expertise in TV signaling is
>>> extremely limited, so I don't know much more than that.
>>>
>>> Has anybody had experience with this kind of TV distribution over IP?
>>> (Not to be confused with IPTV.)
>>>
>>> I know this could go crazy... Multicasting, Recording/DVRs, user
>>> security, PC clients, etc... but let's start with what would be very
>>> basic (Live TV only) and cheap. Thanks for any input!
>>>
>>>
>>> --Matt Ross
>>> Ephrata School District
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