Not mad, but not something to worry about, either. ESXi is basically a small busybox implementation of Linux, and you don't manage it at the hardware's console. You have a management application installed on your desktop, and if you go with a capable (that is, non-free, and featureful) version, you'll likely have a Windows server running their VServer app as well - the VServer installation can itself be a VM or on standalone hardware.
Think of ESXi as an appliance, just like a SAN - you don't normally go futzing around at the console on the SAN either - you manage it through the management app, once it's up and running. Kurt On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 08:54, Oliver Marshall < oliver.marsh...@g2support.com> wrote: > Yeah I really like ESXi but somehow the lack of a…..windows-like OS puts me > off of it. Something about having a “real” desktop there to do things on in > case we need it. > > > > Is that mad (or a sign of impending madness) ? > > > > > > -- > > G2 Support > > Network Support : Online Backups : Server Management > > > > Email: oliver.marsh...@g2support.com > > Web: http://www.g2support.com > > > > > > *From:* Jim Holmgren [mailto:jholmg...@xlhealth.com] > *Sent:* 31 January 2011 16:51 > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: iSCSI SANs vs FibreChannel SANs > > > > Bear in mind that Equalogic = Dell, so your source for the MD3220i should > be the same as your source for EQL. > > > > Re: HyperV vs ESXi – can’t say much for HyperV as I’ve no real experience > with it, but I do know firsthand that EQL does work *very* nicely with > ESXi. > > > > Jim > > > > *From:* Oliver Marshall [mailto:oliver.marsh...@g2support.com] > *Sent:* Monday, January 31, 2011 11:48 AM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: iSCSI SANs vs FibreChannel SANs > > > > Thanks all. Good to know. I’ll spec out the prices for the MD3220i (which > appears to the be the UK model) and also speak to Equalogic too. > > > > Next up….HyperV or ESXi J > > > > > > > > > > -- > > G2 Support > > Network Support : Online Backups : Server Management > > > > Email: oliver.marsh...@g2support.com > > Web: http://www.g2support.com > > > > > > *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* 31 January 2011 16:44 > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: iSCSI SANs vs FibreChannel SANs > > > > iSCSI will work just fine for hosting a VM environment, as well as some > other workloads. > > > > If you already have a FC infrastructure, then that's not a bad reason to go > there, but iSCSI is very mature and stable and good performance if you don't > purchase the cheapest equipment you can find. > > > > First, as others have pointed out, you need to size up your needs... > > > > *ASB *(My Bio via About.Me <http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker/bio>) > *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...* > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Oliver Marshall < > oliver.marsh...@g2support.com> wrote: > > Well, there will be maybe 3 VMs running on each host, most likely VM will > have a redundant ‘spare’ running on the other physical host. The largest > will be about 400GB+ of space running Exchange 2010 for about 100 users. > Then perhaps a DC and a file server, and the latter will just be acting as a > witness server for the Exchange DAG servers. > > > > I like the idea of iSCSI franky but experience of the s*** end of the > market has put me off. Saying that the cost of the FC based setup puts me > off even more J > > > > Olly > > > > > > *From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] > *Sent:* 31 January 2011 16:26 > > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > > *Subject:* RE: iSCSI SANs vs FibreChannel SANs > > > > I have 3 MD3000/3200i SANs and they work wonderfully. That being said I > found that while the fiber has better throughput (we also have an old 2Gb > EMC AX150 fiber SAN) It was a lot more expensive to set up (Fiber switches > aren’t cheap) and of course you need some marginal capability in configuring > said switch. > > > > *John W. 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