Care to share your day? Shauna Hensala
> Subject: Today is the end of the line for me, > Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 20:17:40 -0500 > From: ezi...@lifespan.org > To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com > > I think after this day I have come to the conclusion is time to move on, > if there is companies in the RI/MASS/CT area looking for a security > engineer, please contact me at the email below. If the distance is under > 1.5 hrs I am game. > > Z > > Edward E. Ziots > CISSP, Network +, Security + > Network Engineer > Lifespan Organization > Email:ezi...@lifespan.org > Cell:401-639-3505 > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Lum [mailto:david....@nwea.org] > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 5:50 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Thoughts on this pitch from Trend > > Every SBS site I manage has two servers just to offload some of that > (that, and have redundant DC's). In some cases the "server" is a > desktop, but it keeps that much less activity off the SBS server. AV and > WSUS, that's what an older desktop is good for :-). > > Dave > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 11:46 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Thoughts on this pitch from Trend > > I think some of the issues have to do with smaller installations. We > have several clients that install the A/V server software on an SBS > server...and Trend can bog it down with the smart scan features enabled. > > > Jonathan wrote: > > Very interesting.... > > > > We switched from McAfee to Trend a year ago. Between 500 and 600 > > nodes, including servers, and we have not experienced problems like > > what some of you have described...we are controlling updates from our > > own internal server, and we are not utilizing Trend's cloudy offering. > > [1] > > > > We've been *very* happy. (of course we did come from McAfee, so I > > guess everything is relative.) :-) > > > > Jonathan > > > > [1] cloudy, get it? I crack myself up.... (I can ear the roans and > > eyerolls now...) > > > > On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:25 PM, David Lum <david....@nwea.org> > wrote: > > > >> Excellent to be aware of, thanks guys. %dayjob% environment is > infinitely > >> more complex than my client of 55 seats. What AV do you recommend? > Vipre is > >> on the list, as is Symantec (beyond my control). Trend was the third > but I > >> am open to nixing them in favor of something else. > >> > >> > >> > >> %dayjob% = 450+ seats with dozens (50+) remote workers that work from > home, > >> multiple SAN's, couple hundred servers, blah blah blah... > >> > >> > >> > >> Dave > >> > >> > >> > >> From: Graeme Carstairs [mailto:loonyto...@gmail.com] > >> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 9:16 AM > >> > >> To: NT System Admin Issues > >> Subject: Re: Thoughts on this pitch from Trend > >> > >> > >> > >> Yeh happened all over apart from on the sites, that had brand new > over > >> specced servers, with brand new fast PC's with an abundance of memory > but > >> even they exhibited a measurable slowdown. > >> > >> > >> > >> I personally do not like any software package that at 850MB when > downloaded > >> expands to take up 8.5GB on the server within 4 days. > >> > >> > >> > >> And the supports advise is to switch off the new features, and leave > you > >> with the functionality of the old version, but doesn't improve > performance. > >> > >> > >> > >> It also seriously corrupted a DFS share, and database on one site, > again > >> there are technet articles and such that state that Trend needs to be > >> disabled from scanning DFS databases and shares, but that was only > after teh > >> damage was done. > >> > >> > >> > >> Version 4 -5 issues on upgrade, and a rapid release of 5.1 to solve > them. 5 > >> - 6 serious issues on upgrade, no fix, even 6.1 didnt solve the > problems. > >> The only fix was complete removal, and replace with a different > product. > >> > >> > >> > >> I have raised the issues with Trend, and told them we were stopping > selling > >> their product, and would only continue renewing existing licenses who > wanted > >> to stay with Trend, and nothing was done. > >> > >> > >> > >> They keep phoning every couple of months, to see why were not selling > and I > >> keep telling them, but they never respond, until its chase sales > figures > >> time. > >> > >> > >> > >> YMMV but they have seriously burnt my birdges, and indirectly cost my > >> company money, in fixing issues caused by their software. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On 17 February 2011 17:07, David Lum <david....@nwea.org> wrote: > >> > >> Weird, no issue in the environment I support when I upgraded them. > Small > >> environment though, 55 systems, fairly "clean" clients and just two > sites. > >> > >> > >> > >> Dave > >> > >> > >> > >> From: Graeme Carstairs [mailto:loonyto...@gmail.com] > >> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 8:49 AM > >> > >> To: NT System Admin Issues > >> > >> Cc: Steven Peck > >> Subject: Re: Thoughts on this pitch from Trend > >> > >> > >> > >> Would avoid Tren Worry Free like the plague. > >> > >> > >> > >> It killed (literally stopped servers and clients talking, due to scan > >> overload, and resource hogging) 4 networks when it was upgraded from > 5 to 6, > >> > >> > >> > >> Had to remove it and install vipre which made very angry clients very > happy > >> > >> > >> > >> Graeme > >> > >> > >> > >> On 17 February 2011 16:44, Steven Peck <sep...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> Here we go > >> http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2011-01-07/ > >> > >> Steven Peck > >> http://www.blkmtn.org > >> > >> On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 7:58 AM, Mike Gill > <lis...@canbyfoursquare.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> Bla bla, our def files are I the cloud, bla bla, something about > >> virtualization density, bla bla cloud, bla bla bla. > >> > >> > >> > >> Of the different AV product I have worked with, all of them allow for > an > >> alternate server location for def updates if a local store isn't > available. > >> I'm not sure what they're trying to sell, but they like saying cloud > over > >> and over. J > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Mike Gill > >> > >> > >> > >> From: David Lum [mailto:david....@nwea.org] > >> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 7:02 AM > >> To: NT System Admin Issues > >> Subject: Thoughts on this pitch from Trend > >> > >> > >> > >> It's 3:43 long. Their WorryFree product does this as well and seems > to work > >> OK at the client of 55 machines that has it (it gives you the option > to > >> update from the local Trend machine or from Trend's servers). > >> > >> > >> > >> Seems to me they're using "cloud" to mean "clients update from us and > not > >> your local server". 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