I changed careers 5 years ago for a couple of years, came back to IT. I do enjoy it. I'm also able to take advantage of skills from two careers, so that's helpful, as well.
The longer I live, the more I come to realize that it is the human connections we create that make life worth living. Working with stuff is great, but working with people and solving problems they have is even better. On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Jonathan <ncm...@gmail.com> wrote: > Yeah, there is definitely some truth to that. That's a really good > point about the exciting times in IT being during implementation and > problems/disasters. > > I was having a conversation with a friend of mine this morning (he > moved from the telecom world into counseling fathers and families!). > Anyway, we were talking about job and career changes, and the gist of > it is that if you change jobs because you are dissatisfied, even if > you are good at what you do and even if you THINK you enjoy it...... > if you are unsatisfied with job after job, and the corporate climate > is different in each one, perhaps it isn't the job, but the career > you've chosen... > > Part of my motivation for changing jobs is for me to explore whether > or not this truly is the right career for me. If I continue to be > dissatisfied with my new job, (once the honeymoon wears off), then > perhaps it isn't the culture, but possibly it is time for me to at > least consider a change in careers... (scary thought, but one has to > work through these things to find contentment). > > JR > > > On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 9:12 AM, Jonathan Link <jonathan.l...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > In the vein of greener pastures and all that, I also read this editorial > > recently (subscription required, probably not worth it because I'll > > paraphrase it below). > > http://www.sqlservercentral.com/articles/Editorial/72386/ > > > > The editorial is focused on the DBA, and it's thesis is that work is > > mundane, exciting work happens when something bad happens, and we put in > a > > lot of effort to make sure bad things don't happen. That's all > applicable > > to IT in general. I guess what I'm trying to say is that the reasons for > > leaving shouldn't involve the %WORK% but should involve the %JOB%. 245 > word > > article made a world of difference in making me understand my own > situation. > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 9:03 AM, Don Kuhlman <drkuhl...@yahoo.com> > wrote: > >> > >> Best of luck to you both! Hopefully some of that good vib will rub > off > >> and I'll find a new gig that's a "happy place". > >> > >> Don K > >> > >> ________________________________ > >> From: "Ziots, Edward" <ezi...@lifespan.org> > >> To: NT System Admin Issues <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> > >> Sent: Fri, February 18, 2011 7:22:50 AM > >> Subject: RE: Today is the end of the line for me, > >> > >> Jon, > >> > >> > >> > >> I definitely see the excitement in your email for this new opportunity, > >> definitely happy for you. Hopefully will be moving on to do security > only > >> work and leave the system engineering realm behind, its beyond time. > >> > >> > >> > >> Z > >> > >> > >> > >> Edward E. Ziots > >> > >> CISSP, Network +, Security + > >> > >> Network Engineer > >> > >> Lifespan Organization > >> > >> Email:ezi...@lifespan.org > >> > >> Cell:401-639-3505 > >> > >> > >> > >> From: Jonathan [mailto:ncm...@gmail.com] > >> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 11:14 PM > >> > >> To: NT System Admin Issues > >> Subject: Re: Today is the end of the line for me, > >> > >> > >> > >> +100 > >> > >> Wow. I wish I had read that a LONG time ago. > >> > >> On a positive note, I AM moving on, and quite excited about it. > >> > >> Hang in there Z! > >> > >> Jonathan - Thumb typed from my HTC Droid Incredible (and yes, it really > >> is) on the Verizon network. > >> > >> On Feb 17, 2011 9:31 PM, "Andrew S. Baker" <asbz...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> > Excellent article > >> > > >> > -ASB: http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker > >> > > >> > Sent from my Motorola Droid > >> > On Feb 17, 2011 8:28 PM, "Jonathan Link" <jonathan.l...@gmail.com> > >> > wrote: > >> >> This may be appropriate to your mood. > >> >> http://www.asktheheadhunter.com/hawall.htm > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 8:17 PM, Ziots, Edward <ezi...@lifespan.org> > >> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >>> I think after this day I have come to the conclusion is time to move > >> >>> on, > >> >>> if there is companies in the RI/MASS/CT area looking for a security > >> >>> engineer, please contact me at the email below. If the distance is > >> >>> under > >> >>> 1.5 hrs I am game. > >> >>> > >> >>> Z > >> >>> > >> >>> Edward E. Ziots > >> >>> CISSP, Network +, Security + > >> >>> Network Engineer > >> >>> Lifespan Organization > >> >>> Email:ezi...@lifespan.org > >> >>> Cell:401-639-3505 > >> >>> > >> >>> -----Original Message----- > >> >>> From: David Lum [mailto:david....@nwea.org] > >> >>> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 5:50 PM > >> >>> To: NT System Admin Issues > >> >>> Subject: RE: Thoughts on this pitch from Trend > >> >>> > >> >>> Every SBS site I manage has two servers just to offload some of that > >> >>> (that, and have redundant DC's). In some cases the "server" is a > >> >>> desktop, but it keeps that much less activity off the SBS server. AV > >> >>> and > >> >>> WSUS, that's what an older desktop is good for :-). > >> >>> > >> >>> Dave > >> >>> > >> >>> -----Original Message----- > >> >>> From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] > >> >>> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 11:46 AM > >> >>> To: NT System Admin Issues > >> >>> Subject: Re: Thoughts on this pitch from Trend > >> >>> > >> >>> I think some of the issues have to do with smaller installations. We > >> >>> have several clients that install the A/V server software on an SBS > >> >>> server...and Trend can bog it down with the smart scan features > >> >>> enabled. > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> Jonathan wrote: > >> >>> > Very interesting.... > >> >>> > > >> >>> > We switched from McAfee to Trend a year ago. Between 500 and 600 > >> >>> > nodes, including servers, and we have not experienced problems > like > >> >>> > what some of you have described...we are controlling updates from > >> >>> > our > >> >>> > own internal server, and we are not utilizing Trend's cloudy > >> >>> > offering. > >> >>> > [1] > >> >>> > > >> >>> > We've been *very* happy. (of course we did come from McAfee, so I > >> >>> > guess everything is relative.) :-) > >> >>> > > >> >>> > Jonathan > >> >>> > > >> >>> > [1] cloudy, get it? I crack myself up.... (I can ear the roans and > >> >>> > eyerolls now...) > >> >>> > > >> >>> > On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:25 PM, David Lum <david....@nwea.org> > >> >>> wrote: > >> >>> > > >> >>> >> Excellent to be aware of, thanks guys. %dayjob% environment is > >> >>> infinitely > >> >>> >> more complex than my client of 55 seats. What AV do you > recommend? > >> >>> Vipre is > >> >>> >> on the list, as is Symantec (beyond my control). Trend was the > >> >>> >> third > >> >>> but I > >> >>> >> am open to nixing them in favor of something else. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> %dayjob% = 450+ seats with dozens (50+) remote workers that work > >> >>> >> from > >> >>> home, > >> >>> >> multiple SAN's, couple hundred servers, blah blah blah... > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Dave > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> From: Graeme Carstairs [mailto:loonyto...@gmail.com] > >> >>> >> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 9:16 AM > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> To: NT System Admin Issues > >> >>> >> Subject: Re: Thoughts on this pitch from Trend > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Yeh happened all over apart from on the sites, that had brand new > >> >>> over > >> >>> >> specced servers, with brand new fast PC's with an abundance of > >> >>> >> memory > >> >>> but > >> >>> >> even they exhibited a measurable slowdown. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> I personally do not like any software package that at 850MB when > >> >>> downloaded > >> >>> >> expands to take up 8.5GB on the server within 4 days. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> And the supports advise is to switch off the new features, and > >> >>> >> leave > >> >>> you > >> >>> >> with the functionality of the old version, but doesn't improve > >> >>> performance. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> It also seriously corrupted a DFS share, and database on one > site, > >> >>> again > >> >>> >> there are technet articles and such that state that Trend needs > to > >> >>> >> be > >> >>> >> disabled from scanning DFS databases and shares, but that was > only > >> >>> after teh > >> >>> >> damage was done. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Version 4 -5 issues on upgrade, and a rapid release of 5.1 to > solve > >> >>> them. 5 > >> >>> >> - 6 serious issues on upgrade, no fix, even 6.1 didnt solve the > >> >>> problems. > >> >>> >> The only fix was complete removal, and replace with a different > >> >>> product. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> I have raised the issues with Trend, and told them we were > stopping > >> >>> selling > >> >>> >> their product, and would only continue renewing existing licenses > >> >>> >> who > >> >>> wanted > >> >>> >> to stay with Trend, and nothing was done. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> They keep phoning every couple of months, to see why were not > >> >>> >> selling > >> >>> and I > >> >>> >> keep telling them, but they never respond, until its chase sales > >> >>> figures > >> >>> >> time. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> YMMV but they have seriously burnt my birdges, and indirectly > cost > >> >>> >> my > >> >>> >> company money, in fixing issues caused by their software. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> On 17 February 2011 17:07, David Lum <david....@nwea.org> wrote: > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Weird, no issue in the environment I support when I upgraded > them. > >> >>> Small > >> >>> >> environment though, 55 systems, fairly "clean" clients and just > two > >> >>> sites. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Dave > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> From: Graeme Carstairs [mailto:loonyto...@gmail.com] > >> >>> >> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 8:49 AM > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> To: NT System Admin Issues > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Cc: Steven Peck > >> >>> >> Subject: Re: Thoughts on this pitch from Trend > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Would avoid Tren Worry Free like the plague. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> It killed (literally stopped servers and clients talking, due to > >> >>> >> scan > >> >>> >> overload, and resource hogging) 4 networks when it was upgraded > >> >>> >> from > >> >>> 5 to 6, > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Had to remove it and install vipre which made very angry clients > >> >>> >> very > >> >>> happy > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Graeme > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> On 17 February 2011 16:44, Steven Peck <sep...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Here we go > >> >>> >> http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2011-01-07/ > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Steven Peck > >> >>> >> http://www.blkmtn.org > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 7:58 AM, Mike Gill > >> >>> <lis...@canbyfoursquare.com> > >> >>> >> wrote: > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Bla bla, our def files are I the cloud, bla bla, something about > >> >>> >> virtualization density, bla bla cloud, bla bla bla. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Of the different AV product I have worked with, all of them allow > >> >>> >> for > >> >>> an > >> >>> >> alternate server location for def updates if a local store isn't > >> >>> available. > >> >>> >> I'm not sure what they're trying to sell, but they like saying > >> >>> >> cloud > >> >>> over > >> >>> >> and over. J > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> -- > >> >>> >> Mike Gill > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> From: David Lum [mailto:david....@nwea.org] > >> >>> >> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 7:02 AM > >> >>> >> To: NT System Admin Issues > >> >>> >> Subject: Thoughts on this pitch from Trend > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> It's 3:43 long. Their WorryFree product does this as well and > seems > >> >>> to work > >> >>> >> OK at the client of 55 machines that has it (it gives you the > >> >>> >> option > >> >>> to > >> >>> >> update from the local Trend machine or from Trend's servers). > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Seems to me they're using "cloud" to mean "clients update from us > >> >>> >> and > >> >>> not > >> >>> >> your local server". 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> >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! > ~ > >> >>> >> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> --- > >> >>> >> To manage subscriptions click here: > >> >>> >> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > >> >>> >> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > >> >>> >> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! > ~ > >> >>> >> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> --- > >> >>> >> To manage subscriptions click here: > >> >>> >> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > >> >>> >> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > >> >>> >> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > >> >>> >> > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! 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