John, I don't think that's the intent of the feedback you are receiving. Its not a matter of waiting a set amount of time. Its about process and thoughtfulness. Its about considering options and making the appropriate choice. Its about taking in the help and information you have received, and making constructive use of it.
I dont recall what you position is at your company, but your behavior in these matters - directly narrated or what has become implied - is that of a junior tech. And this is what we do to junior techs to get it in their heads - as soon as possible - that a mental adjustment must be made. Don't take these posts the wrong way. If we didn't care in one way or another, we would just ignore you. Sometimes the best help or advice comes in the form of nudging and ripping - so, oddly enough, you may take it more seriously than what could be achieved through typical polite conversation. Its not meant to be mean - its meant for you to reconsider the situation in ways that you currently are perceived not to. If you watch the Dog Whisperer, you can consider this a "tsst". -- ME2 On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 8:16 AM, John Aldrich <jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com>wrote: > Thank you. I will try and give the list at least one 24-hour day before I > do > anything after posting a question to the list. > > > > From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 10:59 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: RE: Dell battery replacement still giving warning > > Very good advice and perspective on the global nature of this list and it's > expertise. > > - WJR > > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 09:56, Maglinger, Paul <pmaglin...@scvl.com> > wrote: > I'm just going to butt in for a moment and submit this. > > If I'm having an issue that I can't find a solution for on my own and isn't > business critical, or researching a new technology, in short something that > doesn't have to be solved immediately, I submit it to the list. The > members > of this list are world-wide and the solution may not come to light in less > than 24-hours. > > If the problem is critical, it's worth the money to pay the tech support > charge (or have the service contract) and deal with the OEM. > > I have submitted issues to lists after contacting OEM tech support if we're > not getting anywhere to see if anyone else has any ideas or experienced the > same problem. But I have always considered the list as a resource with a > weekday only, 24 hour response time. I suggest that all members consider > it > in like manner. > > -Paul > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 8:50 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: RE: Dell battery replacement still giving warning > > One action that was only mildly impatient combined along with your previous > actions which were completely impetuous provides the list with a persona by > which to judge you > > If you don't like that reputation, change it by action, not by whining. > > -sc > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] > > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 9:38 AM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: RE: Dell battery replacement still giving warning > > > > Jonathan, thank you for your reply. Yes, I should have waited, but the > > consensus of opinion on this list yesterday seemed to be "don't worry > about > > it... if you can't find it easily from Dell, just get it wherever." I am > not going to > > beat myself up over $10, especially when the total price was like $35. > Sure > > Dell would have been a bit cheaper, which surprises the heck out of me, > as > > typically OEM parts are more expensive. However, I feel I *was* following > > the consensus of opinion, which is why I'm pi$$ed off that you guys are > > jumping down my throat on this. > > > > As I have said multiple times, I'm not worried about $10. I feel I *did* > listen > > to the list and I didn't get the best possible deal, but I'm OK with > that. > It's > > ONLY $10. > > > > What really grates on me is that I feel I did listen to the list and now > you guys > > are jumping on me because I followed that advice. Ya know... the ONE time > I > > do take the time to listen I get jumped. Doesn't encourage me to be > patient > > and listen to the advice on this list! > > > > I appreciate your point of view, Jonathan, I really do. However, it seems > to > > me that I'm being PUNISHED for doing what the list recommended. Do I wish > > I'd waited for my Dell rep? Sure. I would have liked to save $10. Am I > going to > > beat myself up over $10? No. > > > > > > > > From: Jonathan [mailto:ncm...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 9:29 AM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: Re: RE: Dell battery replacement still giving warning > > > > No, John. > > The gripe is that you appear to be too impatient to sit still long enough > for > > anyone to help you. The reason you were given a hard time about buying > > from third party (after someone from this list recommended said 3rd > party) > is > > simply because you came back to this list and said you should have waited > for > > a response from your Dell rep....and you should have. In the end, it > doesn't > > matter where you get components such as keyboards, mice, etc....it comes > > down to price combined with comfort level you have with the vendor. If > > someone here recommends a vendor, it is because they had a good > > experience and felt that they got good value. Period. > > More than once you've come here asking for advice and we've tried to > help, > > only to be told you've gone in a different direction without waiting for > the > > advice you specifically requested. Thus aggravated the group, because we > > could have taken our time to help someone else who was willing to wait > and > > take advice, or because we could have done something else more productive > > with our time. > > Friendly suggestion....if you are willing to wait for the consensus of > the > > group, then ask a question. If you can't or aren't willing to wait, then > respect > > the group's time (and save some face for yourself) by not posting in the > first > > place. > > The same would apply to your Dell rep or any other party from whom you > are > > trying to solicit advice or assistance. > > Just my $0.02. YMMV, especially if you stopped reading before you got > this > > far because you decided to try and find a bigger, better answer. > > Jonathan - Thumb typed from my HTC Droid Incredible (and yes, it really > is) > > on the Verizon network. > > On Feb 24, 2011 9:14 AM, "John Aldrich" <jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com> > > wrote: > > > True. HOWEVER, this time, I take the list advice, even going so far as > > > to use a recommended vendor, and now you guys have the nerve to cry > > "foul"?!?!? > > > > > > You guys need to decide if you want me to follow your advice or not. > > > Yes, > > I > > > do have a tendency to be impatient. I know that, and I'm working on it. > > But > > > as I said, I took your advice and went to a **RECOMMENDED** 3rd party > > vendor > > > and now you guys are getting ticked because I did what you > > recommended! > > > > > > Get real! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] > > > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 9:08 AM > > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > > Subject: Re: Dell battery replacement still giving warning > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 8:44 AM, John Aldrich > > > <jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com> wrote: > > >> Now hold on just a moment... > > > > > > The issue is that you have repeatedly come on to this list, posted a > > > question, and once we all spend our valuable time trying to help you, > > > you respond that you had already pursued a solution via other avenues > > > and don't need our help. > > > > > > -- Ben > > > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ > > > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > > > > --- > > > To manage subscriptions click here: > > > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > > > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > > > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > > > > > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ > > > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > > > > --- > > > To manage subscriptions click here: > > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > > > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > > > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ > > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > > --- > > To manage subscriptions click here: > > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ > > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > > --- > > To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- > > software.com/read/my_forums/ > > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
