Quote from that article:

"The method is seemingly simple, but the fact that the thieves knew to focus on 
this particular vulnerability marks the Citigroup attack as especially 
ingenious, security experts said. 

One security expert familiar with the investigation wondered how the hackers 
could have known to breach security by focusing on the vulnerability in the 
browser. "It would have been hard to prepare for this type of vulnerability," 
he said. The security expert insisted on anonymity because the inquiry was at 
an early stage."

I like the use of the words *especially ingenious*.  It is hardly a browser 
vulnerability, it a design and implementation issue.  It should have been 
picked up at multiple levels (design, coding, testing, etc). The security 
expert did not want his name listed incase he sounded like a wally :-)



-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Davies [mailto:adav...@cls-services.com] 
Sent: 15 June 2011 10:31
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Citibank worse at security than Sony

What floors me is how sophisticated they are saying the attack is!
Honestly, this article makes me so angry!

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/14/technology/14security.html?_r=3

This is basic s**t!  It's not APT.  It's not sophisticated.  It's complete lack 
of good governance and due diligence.  It's a high profile web app with PII 
data that should be having significant PT work done at a MINIMUM of quarterly.

As with Sony, one has to wonder where their priorities are with data protection 
..



a 

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew B Ames [mailto:matthew.a...@qinetiq.com]
Sent: 15 June 2011 07:24
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: [OT] Citibank worse at security than Sony

As a software engineer I would feel rather guilty to develop a system that was 
that poor. I used to have a Citi credit card..... I had better check it is no 
long active.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: 15 June 2011 04:36
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: [OT] Citibank worse at security than Sony

  So... 200,000 or so Citigroup customers have had their person info stolen.  
Someone logged in to one account properly, then changed the account number in 
the URL to someone else, and the site happily served up that account instead.  
I hesitate to even call the first party an "attacker".  Is it really an attack 
if the bank just leaves a pile of money sitting on the sidewalk and someone 
takes it?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2003393/How-Citigroup-hackers-br
oke-door-using-banks-website.html

  Some banker fat cats need to go to jail for this.  This is incompetence of 
the highest order.

-- Ben

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