LOL! No, I didn't start this thread. I'm sure Matt Ross is learning a few things.
We were on Zenworks until dumping Novell. -----Original Message----- From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 11:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: New to MS System Center, Where to start? Is this a nice way of telling us to "be quiet now"? :) Incidentally -- remote control in SMS (2003 and below) was phenomenal. Microsoft made the mistake in ConfigMgr 2007 to eliminate an integrated RC component and rely more on Windows RDP. ConfigMgr 2012 brings back a full RC component. -----Original Message----- From: Ray [mailto:rz...@qwest.net] Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 2:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: New to MS System Center, Where to start? Like I said, we had lots of various WMI issues, but didn't know it until rolling out SCCM. I'm no longer on that team. I didn't even know they were still having a problem and bringing in MS again. Other than remote control, which is mediocre at best, I don't use it for anything. -----Original Message----- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 10:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: New to MS System Center, Where to start? WMI is one of the key resources used just about everywhere within Windows. It may be "hidden" by lots of command line programs, but it's often the underlying technology they are using. Not always, but often. SCCM does use it heavily as well. In fact, current versions install a specific WMI provider that is used for querying and updating the SCCM DB. (I don't know what 2012 does - I haven't had time to do much with it besides read a couple of documents.) Microsoft does, of course, have some great SCCM people; and if you have premium support that's certainly the place to start. Both Avanade and Accenture have infrastructure groups that do nothing but System Center - and they have some FABULOUS people. And there are a fair number of independent SCCM consultants, including SCCM MVPs, that are pretty bright too. :-) Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -----Original Message----- From: Ray [mailto:rz...@qwest.net] Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 1:48 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: New to MS System Center, Where to start? Apparently everything in the MS world doesn't rely on WMI or we would've known we were going to have major issues. Yes, we looked at 3rd party resources. The project really wasn't mine, and now I have even less to do with it. I did hear, however, that they're bringing in another MS consultant via Premium Support. -----Original Message----- From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 10:35 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: New to MS System Center, Where to start? Everything in the Windows world relies on WMI... WMI can be finicky, but only when the repository becomes corrupted due to various means (like improper imaging). Have you consulted the 3rd party resources for SCCM? -----Original Message----- From: Ray [mailto:rz...@qwest.net] Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 1:24 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: New to MS System Center, Where to start? I don't think 500 is too much for a single server. Of course the specs are important as well as the links. SCCM has been a bit of a disappointment for our agency of about 5,000 workstations. We've had MS folks here multiple times trying to get it to work correctly. Some of it has been MS support not really knowing how some things were supposed to be set up (Site Codes for example), some of it has been our links, and some of it has been the lack of PC standards in our agency. SCCM seems to rely heavily on components like WMI that can be "finicky" with various permissions. That being said, YMMV. If you've had better control of the PC's than we've had, you may not run into this kind of stuff. -----Original Message----- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 10:04 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: New to MS System Center, Where to start? Good question. Would I want to support every workstation in the district? (Aka, about 500 windows machines...) Or would that be overkill for a single server? --Matt Ross Ephrata School District ----- Original Message ----- From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 10:01:28 -0700 Subject: RE: New to MS System Center, Where to start? > :) Where to start...? > > How many clients will be supporting through ConfigMgr? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] > Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 12:50 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: New to MS System Center, Where to start? > > Hey everybody. > > I have a server which has been freed up from it's previous duty. > Trying to find something productive for it's use, I'm looking at the > possibility of running System Center on it. > > Now, I'm totally new to any of the System Center stuff, so I'm > ignorant of much of it's uses. > > We at this school district will be subscribing to the MS EES program > when it becomes available (October 1st). This program will allow all > of our computers to run the most updated versions of Windows and > Office, as well as provide the CALs for several programs we had not > had the resources to purchase before. In particular, we will now have > CALs for System Center Configuration Manager and System Center Client Management Suite. > > So, I'm diving in. I've just erased said spare server, installed > Win2k8R2SP1 (Say that 5 times fast) and I'm about to try to install > Configuration Manager 2007. Anything I should be aware of? 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