Apparently this is actually uncontroversial, the discussion's died down (see also the comments on Chuck's PR [1]), and anyone who wanted to object has had more than a week to do so, so... I guess we can say this is what's happening and start publicizing it to our users!
A direct link to the rendered NEP in the repo is: https://github.com/numpy/numpy/blob/master/doc/neps/dropping-python2.7-proposal.rst (I guess that at some point it will also show up on docs.scipy.org.) -n [1] https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/10006 On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 5:52 PM, Nathaniel Smith <n...@pobox.com> wrote: > Fortunately we can wait until we're a bit closer before we have to > make any final decision on the version numbering :-) > > Right now though it would be good to start communicating to > users/downstreams about whatever our plans our though, so they can > make plans. Here's a first attempt at some text we can put in the > documentation and point people to -- any thoughts, on either the plan > or the wording? > > ---- DRAFT TEXT - NOT FINAL - DO NOT POST THIS TO HACKERNEWS OK? OK ---- > > The Python core team plans to stop supporting Python 2 in 2020. The > NumPy project has supported both Python 2 and Python 3 in parallel > since 2010, and has found that supporting Python 2 is an increasing > burden on our limited resources; thus, we plan to eventually drop > Python 2 support as well. Now that we're entering the final years of > community-supported Python 2, the NumPy project wants to clarify our > plans, with the goal of to helping our downstream ecosystem make plans > and accomplish the transition with as little disruption as possible. > > Our current plan is as follows: > > Until **December 31, 2018**, all NumPy releases will fully support > both Python 2 and Python 3. > > Starting on **January 1, 2019**, any new feature releases will support > only Python 3. > > The last Python-2-supporting release will be designated as a long-term > support (LTS) release, meaning that we will continue to merge > bug-fixes and make bug-fix releases for a longer period than usual. > Specifically, it will be supported by the community until **December > 31, 2019**. > > On **January 1, 2020** we will raise a toast to Python 2, and > community support for the last Python-2-supporting release will come > to an end. However, it will continue to be available on PyPI > indefinitely, and if any commercial vendors wish to extend the LTS > support past this point then we are open to letting them use the LTS > branch in the official NumPy repository to coordinate that. > > If you are a NumPy user who requires ongoing Python 2 support in 2020 > or later, then please contact your vendor. If you are a vendor who > wishes to continue to support NumPy on Python 2 in 2020+, please get > in touch; ideally we'd like you to get involved in maintaining the LTS > before it actually hits end-of-life, so we can make a clean handoff. > > To minimize disruption, running 'pip install numpy' on Python 2 will > continue to give the last working release in perpetuity; but after > January 1, 2019 it may not contain the latest features, and after > January 1, 2020 it may not contain the latest bug fixes. > > For more information on the scientific Python ecosystem's transition > to Python-3-only, see: http://www.python3statement.org/ > > For more information on porting your code to run on Python 3, see: > https://docs.python.org/3/howto/pyporting.html > > ---- > > Thoughts? > > -n > > On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Marten van Kerkwijk > <m.h.vankerkw...@gmail.com> wrote: >> In astropy we had a similar discussion about version numbers, and >> decided to make 2.0 the LTS that still supports python 2.7 and 3.0 the >> first that does not. If we're discussing jumping a major number, we >> could do the same for numpy. (Admittedly, it made a bit more sense >> with the numbering scheme astropy had adopted anyway.) -- Marten >> _______________________________________________ >> NumPy-Discussion mailing list >> NumPy-Discussion@python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion > > > > -- > Nathaniel J. Smith -- https://vorpus.org -- Nathaniel J. Smith -- https://vorpus.org _______________________________________________ NumPy-Discussion mailing list NumPy-Discussion@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion