On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 6:25 PM Ralf Gommers <ralf.gomm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Thanks Alan, good questions. The donations via the Flipcause site go to > NumFOCUS. NumFOCUS is a 501(c)3 and NumPy's fiscal sponsor, so any > individual or institution that wants to donate to NumPy should preferably > donate to NumFOCUS. That way your donation is tax-deductable if you're in > the US, and it can be used in a way that the NumPy Steering Council prefers. > > Quansight Labs is not a nonprofit and it doesn't make much sense for it to > focus on donations. That said, it does have a very capable team, so could > contract with NumFOCUS to do work on NumPy, if the NumPy Steering Council > thinks that's in NumPy's best interest (e.g. for developing a particular > feature). > > > On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 6:05 PM Alan Isaac <alan.is...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Under the section "How will we fund this?" in the first Quansight link, >> there is not category of "individual and institutional donations". >> I noticed this because the question recently arose at my university, >> how can the university occasionally donate to NumPy development? >> > > We should talk:) Anything we can do as a project to make that easier > should be done. Also if you need an invoice or purchase order from > NumFOCUS, I believe that can be easily arranged (and has been arranged for > other projects in the past). > > In order for this to happen, the recipient of the donation and the >> intended use of the funds must be transparently documented. As an >> example, suppose one goes to numpy.org and scrolls down (!?) to >> the "Donate to Numpy" button. It is entirely unclear what that >> means, and clicking the button leads to a flipcause site that fails >> to clarify. > > > The numpy.org donation button needs to be overhauled anyway, because > NumFOCUS is switching away from Flipcause. At the same time we can clarify > on that page where donation go and how we then decide to use that funding. > Here is a PR with updates to the numpy.org front page: https://github.com/numpy/numpy.org/pull/20. I think it contains all the essentials (governance, roadmap, where the funds go). A larger website overhaul is also in order, but that's hard to do right now. Howevrer if there is still information missing that people really look for when considering a donation, I'd love to know so I can add that straight away. Cheers, Ralf > >> I suspect many academic institutions would be interested >> in making occasional, modest contributions toward NumPy development, >> if the recipient and intended uses were entirely transparent. >> > > I think academic institutions or the people in it may have a lot of > goodwill towards NumPy, however as a project we historically have been very > bad at communicating needs and asking for donations. That button doesn't > really do much; our average donation level is like $50/month. I actually > would like to improve that. E.g. if we have a good story and ask people > whose research relies on NumPy (or other core projects) to build say a 0.5% > software support item in their grant requests, that could turn into a > decent revenue stream, which will then help with maintenance and > accelerating development of new features on our roadmap. > > Cheers, > Ralf > > > >> Cheers, Alan Isaac >> >> >> On 4/9/2019 3:10 AM, Ralf Gommers wrote: >> > Hi all, >> > >> > Last week I joined Quansight. In Quansight Labs I will be working on >> increasing the contributions to core SciPy/PyData projects, and will also >> have funded time to work on NumPy and >> > other projects myself. Hameer Abbasi has had and will continue to have >> funded time to work on NumPy as well. So I have submitted a pull request >> (gh-13289) to add Quansight Labs as >> > an Institutional Partner (we list those at >> https://docs.scipy.org/doc/numpy/dev/governance/people.html#institutional-partners, >> currently only BIDS). >> > >> > Both Travis and I wrote blog posts about where we want to go with >> Quansight Labs. Given the relevance to NumPy I thought it would be >> appropriate to reference those posts here: >> > - >> https://www.quansight.com/single-post/2019/04/02/Welcoming-Ralf-Gommers-as-Director-of-Quansight-Labs >> > < >> https://www.quansight.com/single-post/2019/04/02/Welcoming-Ralf-Gommers-as-Director-of-Quansight-Labs >> > >> > - https://labs.quansight.org/blog/2019/4/joining-labs/ >> > >> > Any feedback, suggestion or idea is very welcome. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Ralf >> _______________________________________________ >> NumPy-Discussion mailing list >> NumPy-Discussion@python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion >> >
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