Hi Stephan,

> On Saturday, Apr 27, 2019 at 6:21 PM, Stephan Hoyer <sho...@gmail.com 
> (mailto:sho...@gmail.com)> wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 9:16 AM Hameer Abbasi <einstein.edi...@gmail.com 
> (mailto:einstein.edi...@gmail.com)> wrote:
> > > That said, please save it a separate discussion thread, given that the 
> > > design of uarray is (wisely) orthogonal to NEP-18.
> > I disagree, I don’t consider it orthogonal: I’m presenting a way to avoid 
> > the very protocols being discussed, and I’d like to avoid duplicate work, 
> > or making NumPy itself un-maintainable. Please note the text of NEP-18:
> >
> > > The __array_function__protocol, and its use on particular functions, is 
> > > experimental. We plan to retain an interface that makes it possible to 
> > > override NumPy functions, but the way to do so for particular functions 
> > > can and will change with little warning. If such reduced backwards 
> > > compatibility guarantees are not accepted to you, do not rely upon 
> > > overrides of NumPy functions for non-NumPy arrays. See “Non-goals” below 
> > > for more details.
> >
> > What I’m presenting is within scope, as it’s an alternative method.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Hameer Abbasi
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> Are there aspects of your uarray proposal that are relevant to the current 
> proposed revisions to NEP 18? If so, please restate them :).
>

Of course, here’s my proposal:

We leave NEP-18 as-is for now, and instead of writing separate protocols for 
coercion, dtypes and ufuncs (which will be needed somewhere down the line), we 
have a discussion about uarray and see if it can help there. :-)

Ralf and I discussed internally about the possibility of a dedicated call, with 
all important participants.
>
> Thanks,
> Stephan
>
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Best Regards,
Hameer Abbasi

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