On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 12:28 PM Benjamin Root <ben.v.r...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Digressing here, but the ozone hole over the antarctic was always going to
> take time to recover because of the approximately 50 year residence time of
> the CFCs in the upper atmosphere. Cold temperatures can actually speed up
> depletion because of certain ice crystal formations that give a boost in
> the CFC+sunlight+O3 reaction rate. Note that it doesn't mean that 50 years
> are needed to get rid of all CFCs in the atmosphere, it is just a measure
> of the amount of time it is expected to take for half of the gas that is
> already there to be removed. That doesn't account for the amount of time it
> has taken for CFC usage to drop in the first place, and the fact that there
> are still CFC pollution occurring (albeit far less than in the 80's).
>
> Ben Root
>
>
Out of curiosity, has the ice crystal acceleration been established in the
lab? I recall it being proposed to help save the models, but that was a
long time ago. IIRC, another reaction rate was remeasured in 2005 and found
to be 10X lower than thought, but don't recall which one. I've been looking
for a good recent review article to see what the current status is. The
funding mostly disappeared after 1994 along with several careers. Freon is
still used -- off the books -- in several countries, a phenomenon now seen
with increasing coal generation.

Chuck
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