On Fri, 25 Apr 2008, Christopher Barker apparently wrote: > I think a Vector object would allow both of: > M[i,j] == M[i][j] > and > M[i] == M[i,:]
The problem is that it would be a crime to give up the natural production of submatrices. The NATURAL RULE is: to get a submatrix, use nonscalar indices. We should *not* give up that x[0,:] is a sub*matrix* whose first element is x[0,0] and equivalently x[0][0]. *This* is why we must have x[0]!=x[0,:] if we want, as we do, that x[0][0]==x[0,0]. Note that the idea for attributes ``rows`` and ``columns`` is contained on the discussion page: <URL:http://www.scipy.org/MatrixIndexing> I claim that it is natural for these attributes to yield properly shaped *matrices*. Once we have these attributes, it is difficult to see what we gain by introducing the complication of a separate vector class. I still see no real gain from a separate vector class (or row and column vector classes). Everything that has been proposed to do with these is achievable with the corresponding matrices with one exception: scalar indexing -> element so that x[0][0]==x[0,0]. But this outcome is achieved MUCH more simply by letting x[0] be a 1d array. Anyway, I am glad you agree that letting ``x[0]`` be a 1d array is the proper provisional solution. Cheers, Alan _______________________________________________ Numpy-discussion mailing list Numpy-discussion@scipy.org http://projects.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion