On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Benjamin Root <ben.r...@ou.edu> wrote:
> > > On Saturday, October 29, 2011, Charles R Harris <charlesr.har...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Who is counted in building a consensus? I tend to pay attention to those > who have made consistent contributions over the years, reviewed code, fixed > bugs, and have generally been active in numpy development. In any group > participation is important, people who just walk in the door and demand > things be done their way aren't going to get a lot of respect. I'll happily > listen to politely expressed feedback, especially if the feedback comes from > someone who shows up to work, but that hasn't been my impression of the > disagreements in this case. Heck, Nathaniel wasn't even tracking the Numpy > pull requests or Mark's repository. That doesn't spell "participant" in my > dictionary. > > > > Chuck > > > > This is a very good point, but I would highly caution against alienating > anybody here. Frankly, I am surprised how much my opinion has been taken > here given the very little numpy code I have submitted (I think maybe two or > three patches). The Numpy community is far more than just those who use the > core library. There is pandas, bottleneck, mpl, the scikits, and much more. > Numpy would be nearly useless without them, and certainly vice versa. > > I was quite impressed by your comments on Mark's work, I thought they were excellent. It doesn't really take much to make an impact in a small community overburdened by work. > We are all indebted to each other for our works. We must never lose that > perspective. > > We all seem to have a different set of assumptions of how development > should work. Each project follows its own workflow. Numpy should be free > to adopt their own procedures, and we are free to discuss them. > > I do agree with chuck that he shouldn't have to make a written invitation > to each and every person to review each pull. However, maybe some work can > be done to bring the pull request and issues discussion down to the mailing > list. I would like to do something similar with mpl. > > As for voting rights, let's make that a separate discussion. > > With such a small community, I'd rather avoid the whole voting thing if possible. Chuck
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