On May 5, 2012, at 2:28 PM, Ralf Gommers wrote:

> 
> 
> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Wes McKinney <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 9:48 AM, Charles R Harris
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 11:47 PM, Ralf Gommers <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 1:48 AM, Pauli Virtanen <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> 01.05.2012 21:34, Ralf Gommers kirjoitti:
> >>> [clip]
> >>> > At this point it's probably good to look again at the problems we want
> >>> > to solve:
> >>> > 1. responsive user interface (must absolutely have)
> >>>
> >>> Now that it comes too late: with some luck, I've possibly hit on what
> >>> was ailing the Tracs (max_diff_bytes configured too large). Let's see if
> >>> things work better from now on...
> >>
> >>
> >> That's amazing - not only does it not give errors anymore, it's also an
> >> order of magnitude faster.
> >>
> >
> > So maybe we could just stick with trac. Performance was really the sticking
> > point.
> >
> > Chuck
> >
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> 
> FWIW I'm pretty strongly in favor of GHI for NumPy/SciPy (I am going
> to get involved in NumPy dev eventually, promise). While warty in some
> of the places already mentioned, I have found it to be very
> low-friction and low-annoyance in my own dev process (nearing 1000
> issues closed in the last year in pandas). But there are fewer cooks
> in the kitchen with pandas so perhaps this experience wouldn't be
> identical with NumPy. The biggest benefit I've seen is community
> involvement that you really wouldn't see if I were using a Trac or
> something else hosted elsewhere. Users are on GitHub and it for some
> reason gives people a feeling of engagement in the open source process
> that I don't see anywhere else.
> 
> Feels like it's time to make a decision on this. 
> 
> I see no blocking objections against Github, so perhaps we should give it a 
> go. The attachment issue for data files can be solved by relocating those to 
> a server we still administer. Trac is currently annoying me also, because I 
> need to change the milestone of ~50 tickets and have no good way of doing it. 
> So nothing's perfect. Github's hosting service, possibly more user 
> involvement and centralizing all our tools there may be enough to outweigh 
> the limitations of GHI.
> 

> Proposal: move NumPy tickets to Github.

+1 

The process does need planning.   We don't need to rush, but it would be great 
to get it done by end of June.    To Charles' list and Ralf's suggestions, I 
would add setting up a server that can relay pull requests to the mailing list. 

NumFocus can setup that server and provide login permissions to those needing 
to administer it. 

-Travis



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