Hi, On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 5:13 PM, srean <srean.l...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I'm not on the python mailing lists, but my impression is that python >> is in a different space from numpy. I mean, I have the impression > > Indeed one could seek out philosphical differences between different > projects. No two projects are the same but they can and often do have > common issues. About the issues that Fernando mentioned I can say that > they are real, they do apply and this I say from a from the experience > of being on the numpy mailing list. > > I think that many silent numpy users will thank the creation of a low > barrier, low noise (noise is context sensitive) forum where they can > ask for help with what they feel are simple questions with easy > answers. > > I still do not have a tangible grasp of what your fears are. It seems > you are unhappy that this will split the community. It wont, its just > two lists for the same community where mails have been sorted into > different folders. > > It also seems the notion of developers and users is disagreeable to > you and you are philosophically hesitant about accepting/recognizing > that such a difference exists. I may be wrong, I do not intend to > speak for you, I am only trying to understand your objections.
Did you read the blog post that Fernando sent the link for? Now I read it, it captures the idea I was trying to get at rather well. > First let me assure you they are labels on (temporary) roles not on a > person (if that is what is making you uncomfortable). Different people > occupy different states for different amounts of time. > > A question about how to run length decode an array of integers is > very different from a question on which files to touch to add > reduceat( ) support to the numexpression engine and how. > > It would be strange to take the position that there is no difference > between the nature of these questions. Or to take the position that > the person who is interest in the former is also keen to learn about > the former (note: some would be, example: yours sincerely. I know the > former ot the latter ) or at the least keen on receiving mails on > extended discussion on the topic of lesser interest. > > It seems to me, that sorting these mails into different bins only > improves the contextual signal to noise ratio, which the recipient can > use as he/she feels fit. The only issue is if there will be enough > volume for each of these bins. My perception is yes but this can > certainly be revisited. In anycase it does not prevent nor hinder any > activity, but allows flexible organization of content should one want > it. > >> So, it may not make sense to think in terms of a model that works for >> Python, or even, IPython. > > I do not want to read too much into this, but this I do find kind of > odd and confusing: to proactively solicit input from other related > projects but then say that do do not apply once the views expressed > werent in total agreement. Well - I'm sure you feel the same way - I often find myself wanting to hear of people's experience in order to be able to think more clearly. In this case I wasn't expecting Fernando to agree with me, but to give his thoughts and experience. That in turn modified how I was thinking about the problem, and hence my response. Please - don't worry - I don't think the sky will fall if there is a separate user list, and nor do I think it much matters what I think about the matter. I'm only trying to shorten the bad period we're going through by helping to concentrate on the problem in hand. Cheers, Matthew _______________________________________________ NumPy-Discussion mailing list NumPy-Discussion@scipy.org http://mail.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion
