We are not talking about changing it "back".  The change in 1.6 caused problems 
that need to be addressed.

Can you clarify your concerns?  The proposal is not a major change to the 
behavior on master, but it does fix a real issue.

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Travis Oliphant
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On Sep 30, 2012, at 3:30 PM, Han Genuit <hangen...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 9:59 PM, Travis Oliphant <tra...@continuum.io> wrote:
>> Hey all,
>> 
>> In a github-discussion with Gael and Nathaniel, we came up with a proposal 
>> for .base that we should put before this list.    Traditionally, .base has 
>> always pointed to None for arrays that owned their own memory and to the 
>> "most immediate" array object parent for arrays that did not own their own 
>> memory.   There was a long-standing issue related to running out of stack 
>> space that this behavior created.
>> 
>> Recently this behavior was altered so that .base always points to "the 
>> original" object holding the memory (something exposing the buffer 
>> interface).   This created some problems for users who relied on the fact 
>> that most of the time .base pointed to an instance of an array object.
>> 
>> The proposal here is to change the behavior of .base for arrays that don't 
>> own their own memory so that the .base attribute of an array points to "the 
>> most original object" that is still an instance of the type of the array.    
>>   This would go into the 1.7.0 release so as to correct the issues reported.
>> 
>> What are reactions to this proposal?
>> 
>> -Travis
>> 
>> 
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> I think the current behaviour of the .base attribute is much more
> stable and predictable than past behaviour. For views for instance,
> this makes sure you don't hold references of 'intermediate' views, but
> always point to the original *base* object. Also, I think a lot of
> internal logic depends on this behaviour, so I am not in favour of
> changing this back (yet) again.
> 
> Also, considering that this behaviour already exists in past versions
> of NumPy, namely 1.6, and is very fundamental to how arrays work, I
> find it strange that it is now up for change in 1.7 at the last
> minute.
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