Is there an indication of what inferred output is required?

For example;
Voice separation - http://www.cs.ubc.ca/~hoos/Publ/KilHoo02.pdf
Harmonic analysis - http://www.ismir2003.ismir.net/papers/Raphael.pdf

or step further to, eg.
Signal representation -
https://files.nyu.edu/jb2843/public/Publications_files/Bello-ISMIR-2005.pdf

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 5:37 AM, Pascal Weinberger <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hey,
>
> I am currently trying to get sth like your 2) to work by feeding the
> recorded midis in stime step by time step, using a variation of Hotgym opf
> and trying to predingt what will be next in the music. I'm just working
> with piano music; but still only works horribly. Any ideas how to encode
> monotonic piano in the best way, maybe even so that it can be expanded?  I
> am really interested in that, but still learning to deal with the nupic and
> programming in general so give me some time :P
> Thanks,
> Pascal
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Matthew Taylor
> Date:03/25/2015 04:25 (GMT+01:00)
> To: Pascal Weinberger
> Subject: Re: MIDI
>
> Jos, that's really helpful. When I get time to start working on this,
> I would love to ask you some questions.
>
> Regards,
> ---------
> Matt Taylor
> OS Community Flag-Bearer
> Numenta
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 7:14 AM, Jos Theelen <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I have written a lot of MIDI-programs, but that was a looong, looong time
> > ago. I wrote those programs around 1990 in C++, on an Atari ST. But I
> > started writing C++ again, on a Ubuntu-machine (after programming 15
> years
> > in Pascal on Windows), so I think I can help you with your problem. It
> may
> > be a bit rusty, but I assume you are not in such a hurry.
> >
> > I have some questions and remarks about it. First of all, what kind of
> > signals you want to feed NuPIC with? I can imagine 3 levels of signals:
> >
> > 1) low level MIDI-events.
> > MIDI-events are messages, like note on (press a key with certain speed),
> > note off (release the key), program change (goto another instrument on
> that
> > MIDIchannel), change control (like a joystick), move a pitchwheel, etc.
> Many
> > messages have no musical meaning, they are just there to control the
> > synthesizer.
> > Disadvantage is that it has not much to do with music, it is not what
> people
> > hear. Advantage is that you are more flexible. You could hire live
> > musicians, let them play on MIDI-instruments and feed that to NuPIC.
> > If you want this level, you could restrict yourself to note on, note off
> and
> > program change messages. These are the most important ones.
> >
> > 2) instruments that play music
> > There is a MIDI-standard, and there are many midifiles following that
> > standard. If you let windows play a midifiles, it also follows that
> > standard. That standard is that if you change to program-number 1, it
> start
> > to play a piano. If you goto number 69, it plays a oboe. If you go to
> number
> > 37, it is a "slap bass 1", etc. If it plays on MIDI-channel 10, it is
> always
> > a drum, and each note is linked to some drum, like hihat, snare drum,
> etc.
> > The instruments are fixed.
> > In that case, a standard midifile could be converted to a list of
> records,
> > like this: time, MIDI-channel, instrument, note on or note off, velocity
> (=
> > how loud it is played)
> > Advantage is that it is closest to what people hear when they listen to
> > music. Just several instruments or drums that play some notes.
> Disadvantage
> > is that not all midifiles follow the standard and that you cannot put
> life
> > music to NuPIC (well, maybe with some adaptions it is possible).
> >
> > 3) sheet music
> > You could go a step further. You can "translate" a lot of midifiles to
> sheet
> > music. That means that the notes have fixed lengths (whole, half, quarter
> > notes, etc). And you should know speed and rythm. That is mainly the case
> > with classical music (it would be nice to feed all Bachs cantates to
> NuPIC).
> > A lot a midifiles can handled that way, but what do you do with drums?
> >
> > Another problem is input and output. I assume that input will be a
> midifile,
> > but what output do you want? It depends on the level, and I could just
> make
> > a textfile with records. Or let the program encode the midifile. Or
> (like a
> > midiplayer) the program could send on the right time a message. But to
> what?
> > Another program? Should I make a file for each channel? Etc, etc. What
> are
> > your ideas about that?
> >
> > greetings: Jos Theelen
> >
> >
> > On 2015-03-20 14:52, Matthew Taylor wrote:
> >>
> >> Well, the idea is to transform MIDI into NuPIC input. How we do that
> >> is the question. I've been thinking about this a lot lately, and I
> >> think the first step would be to try to take one MIDI track (one
> >> instrument in a MIDI song) and transform it into scalar values that we
> >> could feed into a NuPIC model. Ideally, we'd create a MIDI encoder,
> >> but I'm not sure if MIDI files are set up for streaming or not (I
> >> assume MIDI streams well).
> >>
> >> For instance, a MIDI song might have a bunch of different tracks for
> >> each instrument, and we could train models on each track. If I could
> >> get each track input into different NuPIC models, I might be able to
> >> identify when the song moves from verse to chorus and back, when any
> >> new refrain is introduced, when there is a key change or time change,
> >> etc.
> >> ---------
> >> Matt Taylor
> >> OS Community Flag-Bearer
> >> Numenta
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 5:53 AM, Chris Albertson
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Use the language you know best, whatever that is.
> >>>
> >>> No those two things are different.  The first does MIDI and second does
> >>> audio.  MIDI does NOT contain any audio information  If they were to
> >>> interact then you'd need something to produce sound from MIDI which we
> >>> call
> >>> a "virtual instrument".
> >>>
> >>> Sounds like you might be re-inventing wheels.  What is the "big
> >>> picture"?.
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 4:55 AM, Richard Crowder <[email protected]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I have MIDI equipment and SW. But not dealt with MIDI parsing for a
> long
> >>>> time. Which language, assuming Python?
> >>>>
> >>>> Of interest, I had wondered whether the
> >>>> https://github.com/abudaan/MIDIBridge could interact with
> >>>> https://github.com/bbcrd/peaks.js and JHTM ?
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 3:11 PM, Matthew Taylor <[email protected]>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Has anyone worked with MIDI before?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://www.midi.org/techspecs/midispec.php
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ---------
> >>>>> Matt Taylor
> >>>>> OS Community Flag-Bearer
> >>>>> Numenta
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> Chris Albertson
> >>> Redondo Beach, California
> >>
> >>
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