On Tuesday 29 December 2015 17:25:46 Charles Lepple wrote:

> On Dec 29, 2015, at 3:27 PM, Gene Heskett <ghesk...@wdtv.com> wrote:
> > Greetings Charles;
> >
> > I hope you had a nice Christmas, and will have a happy and
> > prosperous new year in 2016.
>
> Hi Gene,
>
> Thanks, and same to you!
>
> > You mentioned upsrw in a message earlier, so I ran it, and found the
> > shutdown timeout was only 20 seconds.
>
> ...
>
> > So I tried to reset that to 120 seconds, which the battery can do
> > nicely, and I have a 20kw in the back yard that is up and running,
> > lights back on in 16 or 17 seconds, so is 98% moot, but found I
> > cannot, even as root, adjust this.
> >
> > gene@coyote:~$ upsrw -s ups.delay.shutdown=120 myups
> > Username (gene): gene
> > Password: my user pw here
> > Unexpected response from upsd: ERR ACCESS-DENIED
>
> See "man upsrw" or
> http://www.networkupstools.org/docs/man/upsrw.html#_diagnostics
>
> > Nut was never given a pw on this system. I, and ups however are
> > members of group nut, and that has always seemed sufficient until
> > now.
>
> Why it defaults to the username of the logged-in user is beyond me,
> and lost in the history of NUT. It's tempting to change that Username
> message to at least point out that the username is being looked up in
> upsd.users. Since NUT typically drops root privileges early, it makes
> it complicated to use the system password file (especially on systems
> like Ubuntu where /etc/shadow is only readable by root).
>
> However, back to your original goal of changing the shutdown delay:
> the "upsrw" command seems to have been designed for UPSes like the
> original APCs that stored settings in an EEPROM. I don't think many of
> the newer USB-based UPSes have a similar EEPROM (or maybe we override
> that), but the upsrw settings for the usbhid-ups driver (assuming you
> are still using the Belkin UPS you mentioned previously) are not
> permanent.
>
> I think you want to set "offdelay = 120" (and "ondelay = 150" or so)
> in /etc/nut/ups.conf to allow two minutes between NUT starts the
> shutdown, and when the UPS finally cuts power.

Thanks Charles. I saw a couple other things I changed, but the help above 
shows in upsrw that it has been changed.  So we'll have to see how it 
goes if I am present at the next power fail event.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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