On 20 Nov 2008, at 22:08, Rahoul Baruah wrote: > Is it something for people to find Ruby devs locally?
Yes. > Or something to evangelise Ruby? No, but without it or something like it, Ruby is dead as an employment option in the North of England within 2-3 years by my reckoning. Therefore it's indirectly evangelising. :-) > Because (as Caius said) if people are looking for Ruby developers > then I don't see a problem with workingwithrails and LinkedIn They just don't work for employers. Go out tomorrow and try and get me half a dozen Rails devs available for work in the North of England immediately using those tools alone. WWR gives you next to nothing (too US-centric). LinkedIn requires you to spend a year going to networking events and doesn't scale for this job. The reality is that most employers are not prepared to do either for a 3-month dev contract. > - I get far > more offers through them (and google) than I can deal with (although > many are admittedly rubbish). That's kind of a good example of my point: you're turning work away and as a result the employers aren't just moving onto the next name on the list: *they're changing frameworks*. That's bad for all of us. I'm glad you can find work, but that's not the only problem we're trying to solve: it's trying to make employers realise the skills are here and to invest. If they can't see there are plenty of Rails devs they just won't invest in the tech and in the long run that kills all of us off. I know for a fact that there are several hundred Ruby developers in the North of England. Why then, even as somebody in the scene does it cause me so much trouble to find *one* that is available for work? I think once we fix that, we're flying... -- Paul Robinson http://vagueware.com :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: +44 (0) 7740 465746 Vagueware Limited is registered in England/Wales, number 05700421 Registered Office: 3 Tivoli Place, Ilkley, W. Yorkshire, LS29 8SU Correspondence: 55 Velvet Court, Granby Row, Manchester, M1 7AB --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NWRUG" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nwrug-members?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
