I'd say senior is often more 32-45k these days (in Manchester) from what I've seen, rather than entry level! Are Sage really paying 65k? Not entirely sure who could afford an entry level fresh graduate, who'll need training in Ruby at 35k+? Remember companies need to make a return on investment on your time. Been (oh sooo much) time since I was a fresh grad, but surely it's more 19-24 entry level? Would be good to train up a few people in time, so it'd be genuinely good to know what expectations are at the entry level. They've obviously all got a lot of uni debts to repay. Guess team jobs in Manchester, are different to solo remote (team) work as well, where presumably if you're top 5% and like actually working at home or without the office distractions, you could compete with the very best in SF/NYC/London. So maybe even £100k permie is possible for the l33t few?
-- Ian Moss http://196destinations.com - capturing your travel dreams & helping you get on the plane! http://twitter.com/oceanician // http://startupdigest.com/manchester // http://www.linkedin.com/in/alteris // ----- Original message ----- From: Adam Holt <[1][email protected]> To: [2][email protected] Subject: Re: [NWRUG] Greetings from Japan Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 12:25:08 +0100 Will: There is a difference between what wages should be, and what is being offered by the majority of companies in manchester. There are some outliers, but if you’re talking majority of jobs are going to be agency jobs, you’re not really going to get much more than that for entry level, unfortunately. I’d like to see where you think these 35k entry level jobs are in manchester? -- Adam Holt Sent with [3]Sparrow On Thursday, 24 July 2014 at 12:21, Will Jessop wrote: On 24 July 2014 12:15, Alex Lynham <[4][email protected]> wrote: Not sure if this applies for everyone, seem to remember there was a lot of chat on IRC about this a little while back, but entry was around 18-20 for most people, add circa 10k for a mid. From memory of that thread and my experience so YMMV. 18-20 is bollocks. If you're earning that as a programmer, even a junior one, you're getting screwed. Will. References 1. mailto:[email protected] 2. mailto:[email protected] 3. http://www.sparrowmailapp.com/?sig 4. mailto:[email protected] -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NWRUG" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nwrug-members. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
