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I tried this at CUNY (Public College, City funded) with no luck and also at
PACE (Private College). The bureaucracy was so bad that I couldn't get
anywhere with it. The problem (on the college level) is that the existing
Admins feel very threatened if an outside organization comes in and tries to
do anything on or with their network. It's a turf war more then anything
else, and even if the benefits are phenomenal the admins will come up with
reasons not to do it. They'll then pass those reasons along to their
superiors who trust their IT staff, and the superiors will thank us for our
offer and slam the door in our face forever. I also tried the tactic of a
completely separate wireless network. This failed in the college level, but
might work on the public k-12 school level.
If you can figure out a way around it, lets go for it. It will give
NYCWireless a possible backbone for future projects and give a huge benefit
to the public school system as well.
Couple of questions:
*What kind of infrastructure does the average public school have, if any?
*Can we integrate wireless and form a good business case for them?
*Can we actually offer this to the City of New York? It's a lot of work,
and will require massive resources.
OR
*Should we offer this to schools on an individual basis?
*Can the main school official accept our offer, or must (s)he get
permission from the school board of New York?
Lets talk about the logistics of this because, as was previously stated,
this would be a great thing for the city and for us.
- -Derek "TheLight"
KC2JKD, OES Queens
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Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 2:43 PM
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Subject: [nycwireless] hi, im new to this (public schools as nodes?)
hello
i've just stumbled into this whole universe, and think
it's a FANTASTIC movement.
in browsing around, i noticed the park projects and
the proliferation of "starbucks" nodes.
given my background, which i won't go into, my
immediate thought was "what about schools as nodes?"
has anybody explored this remarkable opporttunity?
NYC has well over 1000 public school facilities
scattered all over.
on a policy level, this would not only help public
schools and cut costs, but would provide truly
remarkable community incentives/services.
for 30 years folks have struggled to provide
incentives to "keep" people within urban school
neighborhoods.
need i say more?
this would be truly high stakes, however, as the scale
and implications would cut right at a WHOLE lot of
commercial interests...
in fact, im not sure that public schools per se can
even get involved without a system-wide policy on the
matter.
in terms of procurement and policy, there are many
levels to the entire system. some schools could find
a way to go at it "solo," perhaps a few networks of
schools working together. likewise, independent
public schools (i.e. charters) could probably do it
today without any hassles.
some thoughts.
peace
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