Thanks, This has been a topic left to the limbo of uncertainty and frustration for years.
Can/will Law Enforcement respond appropriately and in a timely manner to be helpful and meaningful? Will a verbal authorization over the phone fulfill state and federal requirements? Does this speak for the rest of NYS? If so, Great! If not, why bother. We have followers in Connecticut, New Jersey, elsewhere. Will the Feds chime in about procedures for those states as well? Rich Guthrie _____ From: Frederick Hamilton [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 9:48 AM To: Richard Guthrie; 'Nick (CDC/CCID/NCZVED) Komar'; [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Fresh loon carcass Tobay Beach, Suffolk County, possible Arctic 631-444-0250 NYSDEC Region One Law enforcement 1-877-457-5680 NYSDEC 24hour Dispatch Chip Hamilton Bird Conservation Biologist NYS DEC Region 1 50 Circle Road SUNY Stony Brook Stony Brook, NY 11790 631) 444-0308 >>> "Richard Guthrie" <[email protected]> 11/13/2009 9:42 AM >>> So what we need now is a list of eligible institutions around the state and a contact phone number (preferably a 24 hour number) so we don't lose valuable, legitimate scientific or educational specimens that can be legally salvaged. NYSOA step up to the plate?> Rich Guthrie _____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Frederick Hamilton Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 9:14 AM To: Nick (CDC/CCID/NCZVED) Komar; [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Fresh loon carcass Tobay Beach, Suffolk County, possible Arctic If an individual is going to transport the carcass to an institution that has the proper permits the transporter should get verbal permission from the recipient before moving the carcass. Since this may be a bird that was shot, I would highly recommend the individual to contact the local ECO in the area. Chip Hamilton Bird Conservation Biologist NYS DEC Region 1 50 Circle Road SUNY Stony Brook Stony Brook, NY 11790 631) 444-0308 >>> "Komar, Nick (CDC/CCID/NCZVED)" <[email protected]> 11/13/2009 8:21 AM >>> Thanks Steve for the appropriate guidance. Would you be able to collect the carcass? I have now posted photos at www.pbase.com/quetzal/loon11122009. I understood that persons transporting carcasses to an institution holding a salvage permit are considered agents of that permit holder. Please advise if this interpretation is correct. Nick Komar Fort Collins CO _____ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: Komar, Nick (CDC/CCID/NCZVED) Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Fri Nov 13 07:52:05 2009 Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Fresh loon carcass Tobay Beach, Suffolk County, possible Arctic Please be advised that private individuals are not permitted to collect migratory bird species. A permit is required from the FWS. Thanks. Steve Papa USFWS Brookhaven, NY 11719 631-776-1401 [email protected] apologize for submitting this post to the entire list, but I could not reach any local birders directly. This afternoon I found a very fresh loon carcass in excellent condition, apparently dead from a recent bullet wound to the chest. My photos (I will post these once I return home to Colorado later tonight) suggest a possible adult Arctic Loon still exhibiting some breeding plumage feathers on the throat, wings and back. The bill seems appropriately sized. The vent strap is incomplete as described by Sibley and BNA. The mass seemed too heavy but consistent with a fattened up adult male. I hope a local birder could run down there tonight and double bag it for donation to an appropriate institution/collection. It is located about 50 yards west of the fishing pier/restaurant on the beach. Nick Komar Fort Collins CO -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES Archives: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
