Did any of the birders on site when this woman was there get her name or the 
wildlife organization/agency she was supposedly with?  Did anybody take down 
her plate number?
 
-Joe

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From: bounce-5112539-10871...@list.cornell.edu on behalf of Felipe Pimentel
Sent: Sun 1/31/2010 4:25 PM
To: David Klauber
Cc: NY Birds
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Timber Point Doveke - NO - Sunday, 31 January


Yesterday (early afternoon) there was a woman claiming that the bird was in 
distress and needed help. We told her that the Dovekie was pretty active the 
entire morning (swimming and diving constantly) and that it was just taking a 
break. She insisted that the bird was not OK, mentioned a net in her car and 
that she was going to "rescue" it (whatever than means). Some birders tried to 
discourage her and I left about 2PM (Saturday) after being there for 2 hours 
(more or less). Apparently, this morning the bird was not there and someone 
said that the water at the marine was partially frozen. Maybe the bird left or 
it was taken bey this "rescuer."  I would love know if the bird was "removed" 
from the marine by someone who may have good intentions or it just left the 
place because it was time to continue its journey.  

FP

On Jan 31, 2010, at 3:59 PM, David Klauber wrote:


        
        Following up on Andy's post, I was told that yesterday afternoon around 
12-1 there was a woman present who said she was a wildlife biologist or 
rehabilitator, and she had a crab net to try and catch the bird. Since I saw 
reports of sightings late in the afternoon I assumed she was unsuccessful. 
Maybe she returned later and did catch it. What I don't understand is why she 
was there in the first place, more so given scarce resources and budget cuts. 
The recent newspaper article by a rehabilitation facility said most Dovekies 
don't do well in rehab and 80% die. So why bother trying to catch a seemingly 
actively feeding bird, admittedly in an unusual location, when doing so would 
increase its probability of death? Isn't that time spent more productively 
rescuing beached animals or clearly injured inviduals? The Dovekie only had to 
swim out a hundred yards or so to the bay, which in turn connects to the ocean. 
What's going on here? 
        
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        Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 15:39:30 -0500
        Subject: [nysbirds-l] Timber Point Doveke - NO - Sunday, 31 January
        From: guthr...@gmail.com
        To: nysbirds-l@cornell.edu
        
        Just got off the phone with my Dad (Rich Guthrie) who was at Timber 
Point in hopes of seeing the long-staying Dovekie.  He did not see it, and 
according to others on the scene the Dovekie has not been seen all day.  There 
were also second-hand rumors that the Dovekie was taken in, perhaps to a 
rehabilitator.  Anyone have more details on this?  Assuming it's true, it would 
have been useful for word to get out to the listserve to save people the trip 
over. 


        Cheers,
        Andy Guthrie
        Hamlin, NY

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