I have only seen this bird at a great distance through a scope, but if you look at Phil Jeffrey's second photo and size it "Large": http://www.flickr.com/photos/phil-jeffrey/5198713688/sizes/l/in/photostream/ it may be just how the feathers are arranged, but doesn't it look like there's some faint brownish or grayish barring on the small part of the back you can see? Which, if that's not an illusion, I gather from Keven McGowan's review http://www.birds.cornell.edu/crows/loggerhd.htm would point to a young Loggerhead. Anyone get any high-resolution closeups of more of its back? Tait Johansson Katonah -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --