Here is my two cents based off of over 30 years of birding in this state.  I 
find this entire discussion absurd and think that everyone has pretty much 
missed the real point.  I have no clue why people get so up in arms about 
flushing owls. Let me preface this by saying that some of the people that I am 
about to criticize are people that I bird with frequently, people that I have 
known for over 20 years, people that have been to my home and my wedding.   I 
find it all extremely contradictory and hypocritical . 
 
The  same people that are finger pointing and bad mouthing and video taping and 
planning secret groups because a few people get too close to a bird, have no 
problem walking through the east pond and fulshing hundreds if not thousands of 
migratory shorebirds that are desparately trying to refuel for their huge 
migration south.  Is is possible to walk the east pond without flushing loads 
of birds? Does any one care if they flush a flock of peeps, dowitchers or 
yellow legs  or even give at a second thought while they are searching for a 
Godwit or Stint? They have no probelm walking through a field in the fall and 
flushing hordes of birds in the hopes that a Clay Colored or Lark Sparrow be 
found amongst the hordes of Savannah Sparrows and Song Sparrows and more common 
species.  Can anyone see a sparrow in NY without flushing it first? These same 
people have no problem pshing in any number of song birds during migration.  
Doesn't that disturb these birds more than an occasional flush by a 
photographer or flash?  The examples are endless.  What birder has not flushed 
flock after flock of Dunlin and Sanderling while walking on the beach at Breezy 
and Jones Beach looking for one of those Snowy Owls?  What birder has not 
crashed through median strip at Jones Beach looking for Crossbills or Sawwhets 
and not flushed Yellowrumps and Juncos, etc. What birder has not walked the 
trail out to Breezy and not flushed numerous Yellowrupms and Cardinals and 
blackbirds. What birder has not walked near a pond and not had every duck swim 
to the other side of it?  What birder has not flushed loads of Ring-billed and 
Herring Gulls  on the beach while trying to find a Glaucous or Iceland Gull? 
What birder has not walked through central park and not flushed a Hermit thrush 
or Ovenbird?  I have never gone to Point Lookout and seen the Harlequin Ducks 
without them continuously swimming away from me.  Maybe they just don't like me 
but I think that they are obviously wary of people and do their best to keep 
their distance.
 
The obvious answer to all of my questions is that it is impossible to be a 
birder and to not continuously disturb birds.  Do any of us really think that 
everytime we walk on a beach or thrugh the woods or in a field that we are not 
disturbing the birds that are trying to see?  I am not in any way condoning 
someone who is purposely flushing an owl or approaching unnecessarily close.  
But we need to keep in perspective what it is that all of us (certainly 
including myself) are doing every time we enter the field?  I do not think that 
you can randolmly decide what birds are OK to disturb and which ones are not.  
That seems to be an absurd thing to do. All of us, photgraphers and birders 
alike need to be aware of our impact on our surroundings and stop pointing the 
fingers at others.  
 
And now for what may get me lynched.  I think that birders cause significantly 
more disturbance than photographers do.  Do we all really think that when 30 
people are lined up (even at a reasonable distance) from a Snowy Owl that you 
are not "on its mind", that it is not extremely aware of your presence?  Do you 
think that it feels comfortable hunting while a crowd is present?  I don't. At 
least most photographers will make a reasonable effort to slowly approach these 
birds so that they can actually not make it fly.  That is how you get a good 
picture isn't it? These birds are comming to public places and are surrounded 
by dogs and loads of people.  When they are bothered enough, they will fly.  Is 
that really a huge deal if a Snowy Owl flies a few hundred yards down the 
beach?  I really do not think so and I have no clue why so many people think 
that. These birds did just fly hundereds of miles south didn't they?  I would 
argue that the continued presence of a crowd of birders in a field or a swamp 
or the beach has a much greater negative impact on the birds than people may 
think. I have seen at least 20 Snowy Owls and I have never seen one actively 
hunting.  Why is that?  Probably because I was there and wether or not I 
approached it too closely still did not mean that I was not disturbing the 
bird.  These birds are choosing to or have been forced to winter in what is 
unfortunately a public area.  The Breezy owls will have to deal with dogs, 
people and loads of 4x4's on the beach.  They will do their best to stay away 
from the people and when they feel distrubed they will fly.  That is about the 
best they can do.   My experience has been that if you are birding anywhere 
(and I have lots of experience having birdered in every continent other than 
Antarctica) and you are still and quiet then you will see more birds.  The 
birds seem to not be disturbed as much and will approach extremely close 
without being alarmed or flushing.  Ever see a bird and it flies as soon as you 
pick up your binoucluars to look at it?  You disturbed it by your movements. 
Most photoagraphers will lie or stand still and quitely most of the time.  In 
my opinion that disturbs the birds less than a group of birders talking and 
snapping pictures.
 
So what does that mean for birders vs. photographers.  Well it means nothing.  
Everyone always thinks that someone else is doing more harm than they are.  I 
think you look quickly and then leave and that is what will cause the least 
disturbance to these birds.  I think that 30 people that are at a reasonable 
distance does a lot more harm than everyone is talking about.  My vote is that 
birders are doing more harm than the photograhers.  And we all need to look in 
the mirror a little bit more before we point the finger toward others. 

                                          
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