Ok,Thanks Arie for the detailed map.  This map is very accurate except for the 
getting to the upper winchester lot. I tested it with my addy and it brought me 
to the grand central on-ramp(try it) Basically the entrance road for the lot is 
under the grand central parkway and thus causing confusion. If you are coming 
from Union TPK you need to be on Winchester Blvd. If you are coming from the 
other direction from the LIE the same road is Douglaston PKY. The same road has 
2 names depending which direction you are coming from. Once you get on this 
road the lot entrance is across the street from the sanitation dept. It runs 
along the Grand Central above you. There are signs saying Alley Pond Park 
Adventure Park. Thanks Arie for the map and details but the directions are off 
and will really throw people off.

hope this helps a bit
Jason


________________________________
 From: Arie Gilbert <ariegilb...@optonline.net>
To: Robert Lewis <rfer...@yahoo.com>; nysbirds-l@cornell.edu 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Painted Bunting @ Alley Pond Park Queens County
 

Bob et al,

A live map is here:  http://tinyurl.com/mrvzab     for alley pond

which I have updated with the location of the Punting. 

Right Clicking on a road in any google map will allow directions to
    or from. or on an icon etc.

Arie Gilbert
No. Babylon, NY 

 www.Powerbirder.blogspot.com
 www.qcbirdclub.org





On 11/26/2012 9:57 AM, Robert Lewis wrote:


>Thanks for posting! 
>
>
>Can you explain how to get to the Upper Winchester parking lot?  It is not 
>obvious from Google maps.
>
>
>Bob Lewis
>Sleepy Hollow NY
>
>
>
>--- On Mon, 11/26/12, Steve Walter <swalte...@verizon.net>wrote:
>
>
>>From: Steve Walter <swalte...@verizon.net>
>>Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Painted Bunting @ Alley Pond
                  Park Queens County...
>>To: nysbirds-l@cornell.edu
>>Date: Monday, November 26, 2012, 9:42 AM
>>
>>
>> 
>>The evergreens I mentioned yesterday are hemlocks. The Painted Bunting was 
>>feeding on the ground below these hemlocks until about 9:15, when it made it 
>>ways up to the top of the hemlocks and then flew off in a west-southwesterly 
>>direction across the soccer field. Where it landed could not be determined. 
>> 
>>Steve
>>From:bounce-72450636-8873...@list.cornell.edu 
>>[mailto:bounce-72450636-8873...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Steve Walter
>>Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 8:09 PM
>>To: nysbirds-l@cornell.edu
>>Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Painted Bunting @ Alley Pond Park Queens County...
>> 
>>I updated the map at http://www.stevewalternature.com/downloads/Alley_Map.jpg 
>> 
>>N = the so called Nutmeg Meadow, where most of the recent Virginia’s Warbler 
>>sightings have been (although apparently none the last two days). The 76th 
>>Avenue lot provides the closest parking. Also worth noting is that there is a 
>>dirt trail that goes through the woods to near the overlook marked as “12”. 
>> 
>>PB = the Painted Bunting area. See the map and info provided below for more 
>>information. 
>> 
>>P = the so called Upper Winchester parking lot. This is the closest parking 
>>to PB, but it’s not that far from the Virginia’s area, if you go through 
>>there first. The paved trail that I show ending at the “9” does indeed 
>>continue. You can follow it through the woods and come down at the edge of 
>>the ball fields and PB, or you can cut across the ball fields. Access to this 
>>parking lot is from Winchester Blvd., on the eastern border of the park. It’s 
>>not well depicted on the map , as it is underneath the Grand Central Parkway, 
>>but there is a roadway from Winchester Blvd. This begins just south of a 
>>Sanitation Dept. facility (a left turn if coming from Union Turnpike).
>> 
>>Please folks, some good etiquette with this bird. Let’s not trick it into 
>>thinking others of its kind are around. Let’s not fool birders into thinking 
>>that it’s calling nearby or singing. The latter might actually be a “shame on 
>>me” thing if I thought that. I’ve been around a lot of Painted Buntings in 
>>fall and winter and best as I can remember, they don’t sing. And I’m inclined 
>>to call this one an immature female from the pictures I’ve seen so far. If I 
>>can go by one immature male that I photographed at this time last year, hints 
>>of adult color would already be showing. As Painted Buntings come to feeders, 
>>putting out seed for it might be worthy of discussion. At least this form of 
>>trickery benefits the bird.
>> 
>> 
>>Steve Walter
>>Bayside, NY 
>> 
>>From:bounce-72450488-8873...@list.cornell.edu 
>>[mailto:bounce-72450488-8873...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of 
>>fresha2...@aol.com
>>Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 6:05 PM
>>To: swalte...@verizon.net; nysbirds-l@cornell.edu
>>Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Painted Bunting @ Alley Pond Park Queens County...
>> 
>>The Painted Bunting was seen again from about 4:10 PM until after 4:40 PM 
>>(after sunset), in almost the same place where Eric Miller had last seen it. 
>>After 10 or so minutes of it being difficult to see in the thick ground-level 
>>vegetation, it came into slightly better view and then was seen just about 
>>constantly (though almost never the entire bird) until it flew off a bit to 
>>the west (didn't look like it went far, but it was too dark to see where it 
>>sent). 
>> 
>>The approximate location where it was (not moving from a ~1 foot diameter 
>>circle the whole time we watched it) is where the green arrow is on this map:
>>https://maps.google.com/maps?q=40.743120,+-73.739594&hl=en&sll=40.743032,-73.739438&sspn=0.001103,0.002642&t=h&z=16
>>Approximate Coordinates:
>>40.743120, -73.739594
>>
>>It is not an adult male.
>> 
>>Good luck if you go
>>-Doug Gochfeld, Brooklyn, NY.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: bounce-72450225-8873...@list.cornell.edu
>>[mailto:bounce-72450225-8873...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Andrew Baksh
>>Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 2:22 PM
>>To: nysbirds-l
>>Cc: Nyc ebirds
>>Subject: [nysbirds-l] Painted Bunting @ Alley Pond Park Queens County...
>> 
>>Erik Miller and I are looking at a female Painted Bunting at Alley Pond Park
>>near the Upper Winchester Parking Lot.
>> 
>>The bird is being seen along the asphalt path going north into the woods.
>>The path is between the baseball field and the soccer field.
>> 
>>First spotted by Eric who called me as I was on my way to Alley.  We both
>>obtained photographic documentation.
>> 
>>Sent from somewhere in the field using my mobile device!
>> 
>>Andrew Baksh
>>www.birdingdude.blogspot.com
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