On Thu, Apr 30, 2026 at 1:02 PM Deborah Shapiro <[email protected]> wrote:
> 1. I’m not Deborah Allen. > 2. I agree completely with Joe Wallace, A Birder, et al. > Deborah Shapiro, birder > > On Apr 30, 2026, at 12:07 PM, Joseph Wallace <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Jumping in before this thread is deleted to say that these facts are > widely known and discussed elsewhere. In my opinion, these for-profit walks > and the Twitter ("X") link they publicize are among the reasons (not the > only one!) why most birders have migrated to Discord and various other chat > channels. In those places, community standards and guidelines (e.g., don't > play tape overmuch or subject sensitive species to an inundation of birders > and photographers) are part of the deal and are more generally followed. > > On Thu, Apr 30, 2026 at 11:29 AM A Birder (via NYSBIRDS-L list) < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> >> These are facts, not accusations. >> >> She sends an eBird list to the entire state each day. How is it >> informative beyond someone going to eBird and looking up checklists for >> Central Park? There is no useful commentary as seen in Tom’s thoughtful >> emails. >> >> The walks are illegal because they charge money without proper permits. >> They were ticketed for this and now specifically tell walkers ahead of time >> (in bold on their website) to not pay them until they are exiting the park >> to avoid being ticketed for the same offense again. >> >> Bob blasts calls on his speakers that are disruptive to other birders and >> other park goers. I have seen him even blast owl calls in the middle of the >> day and blast calls in the faces of those who were critical of his ethics. >> >> So please let me know which part of my accusations are inaccurate? >> >> >> Sent with Proton Mail secure email. >> >> On Thursday, April 30th, 2026 at 11:14 AM, Ken Gale <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> > >> > That's a helluva accusation. Where is it coming from? Are you >> > criticizing Deborah's wonderfully informative daily posts of the birds >> > in Central Park? Or me doing an environmental radio show promoting >> > birds and the birding community for the past 24 years as a volunteer >> > producer and host? If you hadn't gone public with your accusation, I >> > would not have gone public with this defense. Neither belong on this >> > list, IMHO. >> > >> > Happy bird-day, >> > Ken >> > www.ecoradio.org >> > >> > When the air or water are clean, thank an environmentalist. If not, >> > become one. 'Nuff Said! >> > >> > On 4/30/2026 10:49 AM, A Birder wrote: >> > > It would be great if we stopped allowing daily emails from someone >> who is basically promoting their illegal, for-profit, and disruptive walks >> by spamming everyone with an eBird list sans commentary. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > On Thursday, April 30th, 2026 at 10:25 AM, Ken Gale < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> > > >> > >> Hi, Deborah, >> > >> Your e-mail bounced back - over quota. >> > >> Thanks, >> > >> Ken >> > >> >> > >> -- >> > >> NYSbirds-L List Info: >> > >> Visit: http://LISTS.cornell.edu for more information >> > >> Posting Address: [email protected] >> > >> Archives: >> > >> The Mail Archive: >> https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.html >> > >> Sightings: Please submit your observations to eBird at >> http://www.ebird.org >> > >> -- >> > >> >> > >> > -- >> > NYSbirds-L List Info: >> > Visit: http://LISTS.cornell.edu for more information >> > Posting Address: [email protected] >> > Archives: >> > The Mail Archive: >> https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.html >> > Sightings: Please submit your observations to eBird at >> http://www.ebird.org >> > -- >> > >> >> -- >> NYSbirds-L List Info: >> Visit: http://LISTS.cornell.edu for more information >> Posting Address: [email protected] >> Archives: >> The Mail Archive: >> https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.html >> Sightings: Please submit your observations to eBird at >> http://www.ebird.org >> -- > > -- > NYSbirds-L List Info: > Visit: http://LISTS.cornell.edu for more information > Posting Address: [email protected] > Archives: > The Mail Archive: //www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > <https:%3Ca%20href=>/maillist.html" class="hft-urls">https: > //www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.html > Sightings: Please submit your observations to eBird at > http://www.ebird.org > -- > > -- > NYSbirds-L List Info: > Visit: http://LISTS.cornell.edu for more information > Posting Address: [email protected] > Archives: > The Mail Archive: //www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > <https:%3Ca%20href=>/maillist.html" class="hft-urls">https: > //www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.html > Sightings: Please submit your observations to eBird at > http://www.ebird.org > -- > -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Visit: http://LISTS.cornell.edu for more information Posting Address: [email protected] Archives: The Mail Archive: https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.html Sightings: Please submit your observations to eBird at http://www.ebird.org --
