Hi All,

This is just part of an email conversation Dick Veit and I had regarding the 
Vireo.  I've attached a link to a picassa web album with photos Dick took, 
which may help with understanding our conversation.

https://picasaweb.google.com/107960158037771512851/September132012#

cheers,

tom brown

Although I do think it's a WEVI, there is much about it that still strikes me 
as odd.  IN looking at photos 16 and 20 the bird is a bit confusing to me.  It 
doesn't seem to have the enough yellow around the eyes, and the lores, although 
yellow, seem quite muted for a white-eyed.  I've banded several white-eyes 
recently, and even the juvs have fairly dramatic spectacles, which I can pick 
out with my eyes 8-10 feet away before extracting them from a net.  The bird in 
the photos don't show a very white chin, I've found that wevi's do have a 
pretty white chin, and although I know it can vary, the wingbars are pretty 
broad on wevi's; .  I don't see any of those features in those photos.

When I look at photo 26, the yellow does look more pronounced, but still not as 
much as I'd expect (or have been seeing) in wevi's (even in the HY's).  The 
chin, although brighter than the other photos, is still very gray looking to 
me, and in this photo the overall jizz of the bird looks more bell's 
like--that's a very long tail for a wevi in my opinion (looks very gnatcatcher 
like).
 
just my 3 cents/
 
tb
 
 

On 09/13/12, Richard Veit<[email protected]> wrote: 
 

the pale greenish wash extending to shoulders seem to indicate white-eyed 
rather than bells




Tshrike19
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