Kevin has nailed it.  It's a Great Black-backed.

Size can be attributed to being a small female, or simply variation within the 
species.

Bob Lewis
Sleepy Hollow NY


--- On Thu, 10/4/12, Kevin J. McGowan <[email protected]> wrote:

> From: Kevin J. McGowan <[email protected]>
> Subject: RE: Update RE: [ebirdsnyc] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Poss SLATY-BACKED GULL 
> - Cohoes/Waterford
> To: "NYSBIRDS-L" <[email protected]>
> Date: Thursday, October 4, 2012, 7:32 PM
> Thanks, Will, those are helpful.
> 
> From the additional photos I see a dirty back of the neck
> that is very suggestive of Slaty-back, as well as a sense of
> the smaller size and maybe lighter back.  But, the bill
> shape, the extent of the white edging of the tertials and
> scapulars, and the leg color are all wrong.
> 
> Kevin
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]]
> On Behalf Of Will Raup
> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 7:15 PM
> To: [email protected];
> NYSBIRDS-L
> Subject: RE: Update RE: [ebirdsnyc] Fwd: [nysbirds-l] Poss
> SLATY-BACKED GULL - Cohoes/Waterford
> 
> 
> 
> I've coped the other 3 photographs that were taken by John
> Hershey and posted on HM Birds.
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/danikabelle/8055096162/in/photostream
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/danikabelle/8055096343/in/photostream
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/danikabelle/8055096603/in/photostream
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/danikabelle/8054880897/in/photostream
> 
> These are all the known photographs at the moment.
> 
> Will Raup
> 
> Albany, NY
> 
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------
> > Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 19:09:55 -0400
> > Subject: Re: Update RE: [ebirdsnyc] Fwd: [nysbirds-l]
> Poss 
> > SLATY-BACKED GULL - Cohoes/Waterford
> > From: [email protected]
> > To: [email protected]
> >
> > Echoing the points made by Kevin, I assume we are
> discussing the 
> > subadult bird on the right?
> >
> > My immediate impression is of a Great Black-backed Gull
> (charcoal 
> > rather than bluish tone of mantle, rather flat head
> shape, square 
> > proportions of body, limited white tertial crescent,
> dull leg color
> > etc) but of course would like to see additional images
> and hear from 
> > the observers as to what focused their attention. The
> size difference 
> > mentioned earlier isn't especially obvious in this
> picture and one has 
> > to remember that male and female gulls differ in size,
> this being most 
> > noticeable in the large species.
> >
> > Cheers, Angus Wilson
> > New York City
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