Shane Blodgett, who was in the field when I called him about the report also was not convinced by the mantle color even though he was looking at the photos on his phone.
Andrew > On Mar 24, 2015, at 4:50 PM, Dominic Garcia-Hall <[email protected]> > wrote: > > A a European migrant myself, with some familiarity with these, I'd be > hesitant to call it. Can't see much color on the gape - would expect red > 'line' and lining - matching eye ring color. > Mantle color really quite variable and also hard to judge. > But I'm not really a gull person. Happy to stand corrected. > Dom > > www.aventuraargentina.com > > www.antbirder.blogspot.com > > + 1 646 429 2667 > >> On 24 March 2015 at 16:40, Andrew Baksh [email protected] [ebirdsnyc] >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Good points Phil. A few more things in favor "for" are the the bill and head >> which is very clean. I have not attempted to blow up any of the photos to >> look more closely at the orbital ring. >> >> The mantle though is where I am uncertain as it seems so pale. >> >> Andrew >> >>> On Mar 24, 2015, at 4:21 PM, Phil Jeffrey [email protected] >>> [ebirdsnyc] <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> I'd refer you to gull-research.org, which isn't always the easiest thing to >>> read. e.g. http://www.gull-research.org/ylgadsubad/admar/06cymar.htm >>> >>> Nevertheless my understanding of L. michahellis, while limited, is that >>> it'll have a red-orange eye orbital ring while your bird has a yellow or >>> yellow-orange one. >>> http://www.audubon.org/field-guide/bird/yellow-legged-gull shows this >>> fairly well. >>> You'd probably want side-by-side shots with smithonianus Herring gulls to >>> highlight any structure differences (and, apropos Andrew's comment, mantle >>> shade which is really difficult to assess from isolated photos). >>> >>> Back in 2004 Pete Shen found a yellow-legged Herring Gull at Jamaica Bay. >>> We posted the images on BIRDWG01 and the consensus was that this was an odd >>> (American) Herring Gull. I suspect the Plumb Beach bird might be the adult >>> alternate version of this anomaly but I'd be interested in dissenters from >>> this view since Yellow-legged is very rare in the USA. >>> My page hosting Pete's pictures is still up, at: >>> http://www.philjeffrey.net/ylhg.html >>> >>> Phil >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 4:02 PM, [email protected] [ebirdsnyc] >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Today at 10:30 AM an isolated possible Yellow legged Gull at Plumb Beach. >>>> Near a group of 12 Oystercatchers and 40 Brant, >>>> >>>> I am not an expert, any feedback is welcome. I have additional images if >>>> needed. >>>> >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> Juan Salas >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach 20150324 >>>> >>>> >>>> Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach 20150324 >>>> Explore js472's photos on Flickr. js472 has uploaded 78 photos to Flickr. >>>> View on www.flickr.com >>>> Preview by Yahoo >>>> Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach b 20150324 >>>> >>>> >>>> Yellow legged Gull Plumb Beach b 20150324 >>>> Explore js472's photos on Flickr. js472 has uploaded 78 photos to Flickr. >>>> View on www.flickr.com >>>> Preview by Yahoo >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> "If you lie to the compiler, it will get its revenge" >>> - Henry Spencer >> >> __._,_.___ >> Posted by: Andrew Baksh <[email protected]> >> Reply via web post • Reply to sender >> • Reply to group • >> Start a New Topic • Messages in this topic (3) >> >> ebirdsnyc: bird sightings from the NYC area >> VISIT YOUR GROUP New Members 2 >> • Privacy • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use >> . >> >> >> __,_._,___ > -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
