Thanks for the reminder Shai,

Here is a link to a PDF of the article that Joe referenced.

https://biology.unm.edu/Witt/pub_files/Baumann-etal-2014-JFO-yellow-Empid-ID-jofo12078.pdf

good birding,

Anders Peltomaa
Manhattan

On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 9:12 AM, Shaibal Mitra <[email protected]>
wrote:

> In a really nice example of how this list serves as institutional memory
> for our community, Dave Klauber just reminded me of this very relevant post
> from Joe DiCostanzo, from December 2014. It details the foundation of the
> wing pattern feature mentioned in the Whatbird discussions, and I would
> agree that this feature also favors Yellow-bellied Flycatcher.
>
> It's not fun to admit this, but the things I learn nowadays don't stick
> with me to nearly the same degree as the things I learned before, say 2000!
> So n.b. to those whose brains are still limber: don't put off learning
> until later, front-load the data hoarding as much as possible!
> ________________________________
> From: [email protected] <bounce-118614530-3714613@
> list.cornell.edu> on behalf of Joe DiCostanzo <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 7:24 PM
> To: NYSBirds
> Subject: [nysbirds-l] New Empidonax identification tip
>
>
> Just got the current issue of the Journal of Field Ornithology (vol. 85,
> no. 4, December 2014). I figure this is not a journal that most birders
> check for ID articles so I thought I would draw attention to an article in
> it: “Simple technique for distinguishing Yellow-bellied Flycatchers from
> Cordilleran and Pacific-slope flycatchers by M. J. Baumann, S. C. Galen, N.
> D. Pederson and C. C. Witt. Pp. 391-396. Anyone interested should read the
> article for all the details, many of which involve measurements that can
> only be done in the hand, but there is one character that can be used to
> distinguish Yellow-bellied Flycatcher from “Western Flycatcher” (the
> complex composed of Cordilleran and Pacific-slope flys.). It involves the
> space on the folded wing between the lower wing bar and the start of the
> pale fringes on the secondaries. This space is much larger in the
> Yellow-bellied than in the “Western”. I pulled out a few field guides from
> my bookshelf to see if it was distinguishable in published illustrations. I
> found it was apparent in the photos in Kenn Kaufman’s Birds of North
> America (at least in the first edition that I have). It was also obvious in
> Dave Sibley’s paintings of these species in his Second Edition of the
> Sibley Guide to Birds (I didn’t check the first edition). The authors of
> the Journal of Field Ornithology article tested their technique on 113
> museum specimens that had been identified based on locality. They found
> their technique correctly place 112 of the specimens. One specimen labeled
> as a Yellow-bellied Flycatcher that had been collected in Illinois was
> identified as a “Western Flycatcher” by their technique. Amazingly, when
> the mtDNA of this specimen was examined, the specimen proved to be a
> “Western Flycatcher”, the first for the complex for Illinois!
>
>
>
> Distinguishing a Yellow-bellied Fly from a “Western Fly” has not come up
> yet in New York, but hey, you never know.
>
>
>
> Joe DiCostanzo
>
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> A very pretty morning in the Ramble for my Thursday morning AMNH bird walk
> group. It would have been an even prettier morning if there had been more
> birds around!
>
>
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