Hi Larry,
I think your sentiment of deescalating tensions is great, but comparing feuds
between birders and photographers with police brutality of black Americans is
off base. I'll stop there to not distract from the point of the listserv.
Anyone can email me personally to talk more.
Happy birding,Purbita Saha
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-------- Original message --------From: Larry Trachtenberg
<[email protected]> Date: 5/24/18 10:13 AM (GMT-05:00) To: Karen
McCaffrey <[email protected]>, Gus Keri <[email protected]>, Mike
<[email protected]> Cc: Ken F <[email protected]>,
[email protected] Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Ruff at Heckscher Park - NO
(Suffolk Co.)
Photographers definitely can be incredibly inconsiderate and chase away rare
(or not rare) birds (and then deny it). Indeed, I remember the Gyrfalcon (like
Ruff a bird
I have never seen) spooked by a photographer at Blue Chip Farms who
sacrilegiously uses the moniker “LarryBird.” However, I am not sure calling
the police is really the way to go. So whether it’s birders v. photographers
(redux), or anything of far more
import in this world, not likely to change anytime soon. In the words of
Rodney King, c. 1992 -- who suffered a far greater indignity than missing a
ruff or a gyrfalcon:
“People, I just want to say, you know, can we all get along? Can we get along?
… I mean, we’re all stuck here for a while. Let’s try to work it out . . .”
(Yeah,
sure.)
Go Celts.
L. Trachtenberg
Ossining
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Karen McCaffrey
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 9:42 AM
To: Gus Keri <[email protected]>; Mike <[email protected]>
Cc: Ken F <[email protected]>; [email protected]
Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] Ruff at Heckscher Park - NO (Suffolk Co.)
While, that is a viable punishment, safety of the bird is paramount and birders
will have to be birders and do their own due diligence. In other words, find
your own dam birds instead of chasing a list.
Just my opinion, YMMV.
Karen McCaffrey
From:
[email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Gus Keri
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 9:28 AM
To: Mike <[email protected]>
Cc: Ken F <[email protected]>;
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Ruff at Heckscher Park - NO (Suffolk Co.)
Why is the solution always to punish the good birders who only want to enjoy
looking at these rare birds?
Why not punishing the misbehaving birders/photographers?
If you see someone breaking the law by harassing a migratory bird or stepping
on restricted area to get closer to it, call the police and photograph them
being arrested. Then
post their photo on social media and let it be a lesson to all the misbehaving
birders.
This collective punishment doesn’t help any bird or birder.
Gus
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---- On Thu, 24 May 2018 05:41:35 -0700 Mike<[email protected]>
wrote ----
Probably another successful chase away thanks to the photographers on the scene
last night who relentlessly chased the bird from one pool to the other despite
being told that
the bird was best observed and photographed from the car.
Unfortunately the solution may be to no longer post birds to the list until
after they’re gone.
Mike Cooper
Ridge, LI
Sent from my iPhone
On May 24, 2018, at 8:22 AM, Ken F <[email protected]>
wrote:
The previously reported Ruff at Heckscher State Park was not relocated this
morning at about 7:00AM. However, it may still be here but becoming more
elusive.
Ken Feustel
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