I have not seen the bird (Long Island and all) but have seen golden crowned sparrow in Victoria, BC. My point here is only that I appreciate the shared knowledge of Steve, Shai, Andrew and their ilk who still post on NYSbirds regularly (even if often beyond me).
Thanks L. Trachtenberg Ossining Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 20, 2019, at 4:51 PM, Shaibal Mitra <[email protected]> wrote: > > -CAUTION: EXTERNAL EMAIL > > > > Hi Steve and all, > > In terms of field-observable appearance, my thought was that it was a > hatching-year bird based on (1) the vagueness and narrowness of the blackish > arc extending from the forecrown back along the lateral crown; and (2) the > relatively large amount of yellow bleeding down below the arc, into the front > of the supercilium. A lot of winter birds out west show much broader, more > solidly black frontal arcs and little or no yellow below the arc. On the LI > bird, the dark arc often looked to me like a vague, discontinuous series of > small dark flecks. I would think an adult would show more black. > > When I get a chance I'll check lots of photos for hints regarding molt > limits, the shapes of rectrix tips, etc. > > Shai Mitra > Bay Shore > ________________________________________ > From: [email protected] > [[email protected]] on behalf of Steve Walter > [[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 4:11 PM > To: NYSBIRDS > Subject: [nysbirds-l] Golden-crowned Sparrow Pics and Age > > I’ve posted a couple of pictures at my web site > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__stevewalternature.com_&d=DwIF-g&c=dpn1WjMMQGUYKOlM1k1w3OIaMfTHNTwPoUrrILOsxvs&r=NwFWAUOlLbz1fEv1wZE8gwFOElNPUvOXd2Pih8klMD8&m=pI6S1TuMSJzxpX6Zl5JGh7MjTKGVGDt7LvPrQIHZoUE&s=w7oXilpgk1tFInJCAWaDCre07aB-TFhIY-fhk6ZSLQI&e= > . Not being on top of Golden-crowned Sparrow plumages, I assumed while I was > there that it’s a first winter (immature) bird. It is what you expect in > these situations. Now having had a chance to look at references and pictures, > I’m not so sure about that. This bird seems brighter on the crown and above > the eye than many immatures. which are often rather plain faced with limited > yellow. But it is noted that there’s enough variability in adults and > immatures that they can’t always be aged. This individual looks very similar > to the one in figure 48.3 in “Sparrows … The Photographic Guide”, which is > left undetermined to age. 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