Yes, I know, but didn’t want to be accused of exaggerating, and don’t have the F&F’s at hand.
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Peter Post Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 9:10 PM To: [email protected] Cc: Thomas Fiore <[email protected]>; NYS Birds <[email protected]>; Emily Peyton <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] nysbirds-l] N.Y. County incl. Manhattan, NYC - 10/12 - Bonaparte's Gulls / (etc.) I believe It’s been down for longer than that Check Xmas Bird Counts for exact years and details. We used to get large numbers at such places as Pt. Lookout, for example. But no longer There’s been a change in ecology or something in region 10. Yet there are still large numbers of Bonaparte’s being seen on the Great Lakes and to the south of us in the mid-Atlantic States. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 13, 2020, at 8:08 PM, [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> wrote: My purely subjective impression – which runs counter to web ‘wisdom’ of increasing species populations – is that the number of Bonies around NYC (exclusive of eastern LI, where I don’t go) has been down for about 2-3 years. Anybody agree? From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of Thomas Fiore Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 11:48 AM To: NYS Birds <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Cc: Peter W. Post <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: Re:[nysbirds-l] nysbirds-l] N.Y. County incl. Manhattan, NYC - 10/12 - Bonaparte's Gulls / (etc.) Thanks, Peter - I had not realized there were records for those kinds of numbers or frequency all the way into New York County waters in that period; I’d understood them as more so in Kings County/Brooklyn waters, & of course elsewhere in the wider region, referring in particular to Bonaparte’s Gull, rather than the rarer two species of gull you also referenced. If only this were so cuurently! I wonder then, when the last of sightings of Bonaparte’s Gull in New York County waters were which included even -for example- 100+ individuals, much less thousands on one day. Thank you for the historical information! Tom Fiore manhattan - - - - - On Oct 13, 2020, at 11:19 AM, Peter W. Post <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Tom: Bonaparte’s Gull were historically common to abundant in New York County. Into the 1960’s they occurred as spring and fall migrants and winter visitors in New York Harbor and along the Hudson River. Up to 5,000+ birds could be seen on a single day as far north as the George Washington Bridge. Mixed in among them was an occasional Black-headed or Little Gull. It was during that time period that Black-headed Gulls occurred in Central Park and Little Gulls could regularly be seen in May from the Staten island Ferry (where they would feed with Bonaparte’s Gulls in the Rip Tide off the south shore Governor’s Island). Peter (Post) - - - - - - - On Oct 13, 2020, at 7:12 AM, Thomas Fiore <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Monday, “Indigenous Peoples’ Day”, Oct. 12th New York County (in N.Y. City) 3 Bonaparte’s Gulls were noted moving south down the Hudson river, in early afternoon (A. Farnsworth) - although a very ‘rare’ sighting for the county, this species is almost certainly annual of occurrence in the county, and the Hudson river possibly the best site to be on the watch for them on passage. 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