I wonder if BOGUs are wintering farther north due to recent milder winters?

On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 7:12 PM <[email protected]> wrote:

> I’m most pleased at the developing discussion on small gulls and other
> bird population fluctuations (mainly declines ☹).
>
>
>
> One quick thought – on choice of statistics (which several raised): when
> dealing with crowd sourced data (yeah, that includes CBC, well-tended
> though it is), it’s always apples and oranges to some degree. If the effect
> is strong enough, it will carry through across a number of approaches (as
> seems to be the case here, not insignificantly!).
>
>
>
> The best evidence for this discussion would be either (1) a Zeusian,
> universal, longitudinal population census worldwide, or (if Zeus isn’t
> around), a really accurate sampling census, based on sightings by a giant
> number of random field groups, to determine likelihood. Neither such
> precise dataset is readily at hand. So we have to squint at what we have,
> augmented by rich, expertized field observations, which fortunately are in
> at least adequate supply.
>
>
>
> As I said at the start of my post, I didn’t have much time this morning
> and grabbed what I could find quickly. Very pleased to see additional info
> others have posted (e.g., from CBCs where the data parameters are known
> personally, and thus trustable, as w/Dick’s), or longitudinal counts from
> Niagara (a world concentration point, with systematic censuses), or even
> careful notes from Gravesend Bay (though movements here can be ephemeral –
> but hey, it’s still information, and I like the place!).
>
>
>
> Hope folks keep grappling with how to best sort all of this stuff out.
> Citizen science at its best should actively embrace these issues – even
> though I actually kind of hate the term “citizen science” as it’s sort of
> condescending and ambiguous, but probably that’s just me.
>
>
>
> Best to the list,
>
> Rick
>
>
>
> *From:* Richard Veit <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 14, 2020 5:07 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Cc:* Willie D'Anna <[email protected]>; & [NYSBIRDS] <
> [email protected]>; Emily Peyton <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [nysbirds-l] Bonaparte's Gulls
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>
> here is a plot of bonaparte's gulls on massachusetts cbcs 1979-2018.  All
> the major coastal aggregation spots i know of (Campobello Is, maine,
> Newburyport, MA, Provincetown and Nantucket, MA, Jones Inlet, NY, Staten
> Island, NY) have dropped from thousands to tens of thousands of birds to
> handfuls.  We missed it on the Staten Island CBC this year and saw hardly
> any at Nantucket.  I used just total birds rather than birds per party hour
> in the graph because the birds are all in one place and are either seen or
> not seen, regardless of how many people or groups on the cbc  (more or
> less)........
>
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> On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 10:08 AM <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Willie, that is very interesting. I had a quick look at CBC results - for
> NJ
> rather than NY, so as to avoid including any "Niagara Falls concentration
> effect," and the recent trend does appear to be a decline (with a few
> ‘exception’ years mixed in). In this graph "120" is 2019, and numbers
> extend
> back to turn of century. I know "birds per party hour" is a rough measure
> (I
> was a CBC compiler for > 25 years, potential party-hour reporting vagaries
> acknowledged), but the numbers do suggest either a decline in population or
> a shift in wintering behavior.
>
> Sorry, this was a quick take, now back to the ol’ day job…
>
> Rick
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Willie D'Anna
> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2020 9:34 AM
> To: '& [NYSBIRDS]' <[email protected]>
> Subject: RE:[nysbirds-l] Bonaparte's Gulls
>
> I have enjoyed the recent posts about Bonaparte's Gulls. Some of the
> highest concentrations of Bonaparte's Gulls in the world occur along the
> Niagara River, with estimates of 50,000 to 100,000 on some days. It is a
> spectacle to witness this blizzard of gulls on the Niagara but it seems
> that
> numbers have declined, particularly in the last ten to 20 years. It is
> unfortunate that the only evidence that I can offer for this are my own
> subjective observations. Counts of gulls on the Niagara have been done
> sporadically and it is only in recent years that organized counts have been
> conducted on a yearly basis, with three counts per season (late
> fall/winter), by the Canadian Wildlife Service.
>
> Numbers of Bonies, as they are affectionately called here, month to month
> along the Niagara, are highly interesting. Twenty to fifty years ago,
> numbers would begin to build on the Niagara in late July with most of these
> birds consisting of one-year-olds. By mid August, there would be a
> significant influx of adults, only just finished with their breeding
> activities in Canada. Hundreds of individuals could be seen at the source
> of
> the river (Buffalo/Fort Erie) and below the falls or in the
> Lewiston/Queenston area. At times there would be well over a thousand,
> particularly when there was a good southwesterly blow that would push more
> of them to the eastern end of Lake Erie. These numbers more or less
> continued, perhaps with a slight decrease, into October, although whenever
> there was a southwesterly blow numbers would spike considerably. The big
> numbers would arrive in late October/early November and reach their highest
> levels later in November. Numbers would then slowly decrease into January
> when at some point, ice formation would cause most of them to depart.
> During
> some milder winters, several hundred would remain through the season. In a
> typical winter, only a handful would remain. Starting in February, numbers
> would slowly start to increase and by late March they would be abundant
> again. Numbers would dwindle during April and they would be completely gone
> by about the third week of May, save for a variable number of non-breeding
> birds. June and July have been the nadir of the Bonies occurrence on the
> Niagara, although there were usually some immatures around, particularly on
> Lake Erie.
>
> To me, the most dramatic change with the Bonies here has been the numbers
> during spring. Whereas their spring numbers used to be very comparable to
> those during late fall, there have been some springs recently where peak
> numbers were barely into the hundreds, as opposed to the multi-thousands we
> were accustomed to. August through October numbers are also much lower
> these
> days, with counts of over 100 usually only occurring now when there is a
> bog
> blow off of Lake Erie. Peak numbers now seem to occur later than in the
> past, in December rather than November.
>
> One change that birders have enjoyed is that numbers of wintering birds are
> seen more consistently now, likely due to our warming climate.
>
> The Bonies are one reason that the Niagara River has been designated an
> important bird area (IBA). It is obvious that the Niagara River has played
> an important part in the life cycle of a significant proportion of the
> species numbers since the 1960s. Whether or not that will continue remains
> to be seen.
>
> Good birding!
> Willie
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