don't know about specific laws in NZ but NZ is part of echelon ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON) so mails are filtered. this is more of a concern for parties outside NZ though :-) ... there are some interesting cases of the usage by the US against france and germany in the area of industry espionage. cheers lenz
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Dan Khan <[email protected]> wrote: > > Yeh - my thoughts exactly - not exactly transparent with the email headers! > Must just be their virus gateway or content filter. Been watching too > much x-files ;) > > Doesn't NZ have snooping laws allowing conversations to be recorded as > long as only one party knows? > Thought this could be a similar thing. > > -Dan > > > On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 9:54 AM, lenz <[email protected]> wrote: > > honestly, if they want to read (are required to let others read) your > mails > > then they don't put headers in mails. > > from my days as ISP back in old europe i know that we were forced to have > > "snooping devices" that can record email conversations but we needed a > court > > order to do so and every court order was limited to only one mail > account. > > the requirement was that it is impossible for the receiver to find out > that > > the mail was taped. not exactly the case if you write headers into mails > :-) > > i suspect some sort of virus scanner in this case. > > cheers > > lenz > > (zip files are unpacked by virus scanners to effectively scan them btw) > > > > On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Dan Khan <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> We've been having a few issues with Telecom, who host our business > >> email, truncating a particular email through their virus gateway which > >> contained a zip file of 935Kb stating the file is too large - > >> uncompressed this is 26MB so a little odd since it must be expanding > >> the zip before calculating max size ?!, but this is an aside... > >> > >> Whilst trying to get to the bottom of this issue with Telecom, I > >> noticed that the mail headers included a silent proxy through an mta > >> at nz.eds.com. When I asked their complex tech support about what > >> this server was for, he was very cagey and refused to tell me what it > >> was - which obviously only served to pique my curiosity more! > >> > >> Now I know EDS from the UK as a major govt consulting entity, so I'm > >> imagining this is a 'silent' email storage/filter maybe for government > >> email snooping compliance. Is this just my conspiracy theorist > >> imagination gone wild?? Does anyone know if NZ law requires ISPs to > >> archive and store all emails going through their service for later > >> retrieval for legal/national security reasons? > >> > >> Here's the headers: > >> > >> Received: from aamta01.nz.eds.com ([64.38.4.150]) by mta03.xtra.co.nz > >> with ESMTP > >> id > >> <[email protected]>; > >> Fri, 1 May 2009 13:14:24 +1200 > >> Received: from mail.simpova.com ([64.38.4.150]) by aamta01.nz.eds.com > >> with ESMTP > >> id <20090501011404.WWAT9757.aamta01.nz.eds.com@ > mail.simpova.com>; > >> Fri, 1 May 2009 13:14:04 +1200 > >> > >> Or maybe it's just a simple a content filtering gateway... :-) > >> > >> Cheers, > >> -Dan > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > iWantMyName.com > > painless domain registration (finally) > > > > > > > > > > > -- iWantMyName.com painless domain registration (finally) --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ NZ PHP Users Group: http://groups.google.com/group/nzphpug To post, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe, send email to [email protected] -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
