Torsten,

I agree that the described measures would protect the native application 
clients. 
But the current specification, as I understand it, does not allow the use of 
the authorization code without client's authentication. It also requires client 
authentication whenever the refresh tokens are used. In my opinion the 
authorization code, as presently specified, is not suitable for an application 
"that can't have a client secret and needs a refresh token or a long lived 
access token".

I agree with Marius that unless the authorization code's specification is 
modified, it is not useful for the native applications.

Regards,   

Zachary
-----Original Message-----
From: Torsten Lodderstedt [mailto:tors...@lodderstedt.net] 
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 5:01 PM
To: Zeltsan, Zachary (Zachary)
Cc: 'Marius Scurtescu'; Kris Selden; oauth@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Flowchart for legs of OAuth

Am 04.04.2011 21:38, schrieb Zeltsan, Zachary (Zachary):
> According to section "6 Refreshing an Access Token" (-13.txt), client when 
> making a request for exchanging a refresh token for an access token has to 
> include its authentication credentials, and the "authorization server MUST 
> validate the client credentials".
> How can this be done if a client is an application that can't have a client 
> secret?
> The authorization code grant does require client authentication (per section 
> 4.1):
>
> (D)  The client requests an access token from the authorization
>          server's token endpoint by authenticating using its client
>          credentials, and includes the authorization code received in the
>          previous step.
>
> It appears that the clients that cannot keep its secret cannot use (be 
> issued) the refresh tokens.

In my opinion, this part of the spec is misleading. Authorization code 
MUST be possible without client authentication. Otherwise, OAuth is 
useless for native apps.

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lodderstedt-oauth-securityconsiderations-01#section-2.10
 
describes how the flow can be protected in such cases.

regards,
Torsten.
> Zachary
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of 
> Marius Scurtescu
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 2:30 PM
> To: Kris Selden
> Cc: oauth@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Flowchart for legs of OAuth
>
> On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Kris Selden<kris.sel...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>> A typical iPhone app cannot be shipped with a client secret and rightly or 
>> wrongly users expect to only have to enter their credentials once.
>>
>> What is the best profile to use for an app that can't have a client secret 
>> and needs a refresh token or a long lived access token?
> The authorization code grant, aka web server flow.
>
> The spec is misleading in this respect IMO.
>
> Marius
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