Thanks, Eran - I was just about to ask about that. 

On 24/05/2012, at 4:53 PM, Eran Hammer wrote:

> I don't care about this either way, but 'explicitly rejected' is an 
> over-reach. I have not seen the chairs make a consensus call about that, or 
> even formally ask the list.
> 
> EH
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf
>> Of Mike Jones
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 11:49 PM
>> To: Julian Reschke
>> Cc: Mark Nottingham; oauth@ietf.org
>> Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] FYI - Text resolving DISCUSS issue about Bearer
>> URI Query Parameter method
>> 
>> Yes, putting the query parameter method into an appendix was considered
>> and explicitly rejected.  Dick Hardt wrote about these issues in the
>> discussions that led to this decision, and I'll take the liberty of quoting 
>> him, as
>> I believe he explained it well:
>> 
>> "The reality is that the world is a messy place. Developers hack the
>> architecture to accomplish goals not envisioned by the architects. The
>> architects can accept the reality of the world, or ignore it and lose their
>> relevance. In my opinion, putting the query parameter mechanism into an
>> appendix is ignoring the reality of current implementations. Adding language
>> to the spec that use of the query parameter is not architecturally ideal, but
>> accepts the reality of the current web would be far more preferable."
>> 
>> "Many sites with substantial security expertise (Google, Facebook, LinkedIn,
>> Foursquare) have chosen to use the query parameter as opposed to the
>> header - both methods have been documented in the drafts since the
>> beginning. Clearly from a practical point of view the implementers have
>> chosen to use the query parameter. "
>> 
>> "I have read people proposing dropping it from the spec or pushing it to an
>> Appendix. I agree that the security issues need to be documented and the
>> architectural issues called out. I think dropping it from the spec or 
>> pushing it
>> to an appendix is a disservice to implementers and sends a message that the
>> IETF is not in touch with the realities of the web."
>> 
>>                                      -- Mike
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Julian Reschke [mailto:julian.resc...@gmx.de]
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 11:36 PM
>> To: Mike Jones
>> Cc: oauth@ietf.org; Mark Nottingham
>> Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] FYI - Text resolving DISCUSS issue about Bearer
>> URI Query Parameter method
>> 
>> On 2012-05-18 09:15, Julian Reschke wrote:
>>> ...
>>> Did you consider to *also* move the whole section into an appendix, so
>>> that it's status is also reflected by the document structure?
>>> 
>>> Best regards, Julian
>> 
>> Hi, it would be awesome to see feedback on this (it has been mentioned
>> during IETF LC multiple times).
>> 
>> Best regards, Julian
>> 
>> 
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