The Id_token is audienced to the client.  It is not sent to a resource server.  
In a4c there may be no access token or resource server. 

The id_token is not opaque to the client. 

John B. 

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> On Jun 12, 2014, at 4:04 AM, Hannes Tschofenig <hannes.tschofe...@gmx.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> Torsten,
> 
> nobody suggested that the access token would suddenly not be opaque to
> the client.
> 
> The question therefore is whether the id token is not opaque to the
> client. Is that the assumption?
> 
>> On 06/05/2014 09:39 PM, Torsten Lodderstedt wrote:
>> 
>> the access token is opaque to the client. That's great! Let's keep it
>> that way.
> 
> Ciao
> Hannes
> 
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