On 02/10/14 17:25, Mike Jones wrote:
> OK - I'll start prefixing my text with "Mike> ".

Many thanks.

S

> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Farrell [mailto:stephen.farr...@cs.tcd.ie] 
> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 8:49 AM
> To: Mike Jones; Alissa Cooper; The IESG
> Cc: oauth-cha...@tools.ietf.org; 
> draft-ietf-oauth-json-web-to...@tools.ietf.org; oauth@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Alissa Cooper's Discuss on 
> draft-ietf-oauth-json-web-token-27: (with DISCUSS)
> 
> 
> Mike,
> 
> I cannot tell which is your text and which not.
> 
> Can you please use a better quoting style? These docs are going to be a total 
> PITA to handle otherwise.
> 
> Thanks,
> S.
> 
> 
> On 02/10/14 16:14, Mike Jones wrote:
>> Responding to the DISCUSS below…
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Alissa Cooper [mailto:ali...@cooperw.in]
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 12:25 PM
>> To: The IESG
>> Cc: oauth-cha...@tools.ietf.org; 
>> draft-ietf-oauth-json-web-to...@tools.ietf.org
>> Subject: Alissa Cooper's Discuss on 
>> draft-ietf-oauth-json-web-token-27: (with DISCUSS)
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>> Alissa Cooper has entered the following ballot position for
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>> draft-ietf-oauth-json-web-token-27: Discuss
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>> Please refer to 
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>> for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions.
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>> The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here:
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>> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-oauth-json-web-token/
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>> DISCUSS:
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>> == Section 12 ==
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>> "A JWT may contain privacy-sensitive information.  When this is the
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>>    case, measures must be taken to prevent disclosure of this
>>
>>    information to unintended parties."
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>> It seems to me that this should be a normative MUST, particularly in light 
>> of the fact that claims are being defined that are meant to directly 
>> identify users (e.g., sub) and other claims defined here or later could do 
>> so as well.
>>
>>
>>
>> There seems to be debate whether a 2119 language should be used other than 
>> when describing protocol requirements.  Jim Schaad (the JOSE chair) believes 
>> that they shouldn’t and these documents have followed that convention.
>>
>>
>>
>> "One way to achieve this is to use
>>
>>    an encrypted JWT.  Another way is to ensure that JWTs containing
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>>    unencrypted privacy-sensitive information are only transmitted over
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>>    encrypted channels or protocols, such as TLS."
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>> Since sensitive JWTs should be protected from both intermediary 
>> observation and from being sent to unintended recipients, I would
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>> suggest:
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>> One way to achieve this is to use an encrypted JWT and authenticate the 
>> recipient. Another way is to ensure that JWTs containing unencrypted 
>> privacy-sensitive information are only transmitted over encrypted channels 
>> or protocols that also support endpoint authentication, such as TLS.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for this suggested language.  We can incorporate something like that.
>>
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