I tend to agree that we need both.

We needed to start someplace.   

The user based discovery may better be described as finding a OAuth Service/API 
for the user, authentication, photo, calendar, health record etc.
We may want to separate that from the OAuth discovery as that could be used 
independently.

Anyway the document is a start.

John B.

> On Dec 13, 2015, at 2:43 PM, Torsten Lodderstedt <tors...@lodderstedt.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Mike, Nat, John,
> 
> thanks for starting this work. 
> 
> It seems you assume the AS can always be discoverd using the user id of the 
> resource owner. I think the underlying assumption is resource servers accept 
> access token of different (any?) user specific AS (and OP)? From my 
> perspective, RSs nowadays typically trust _the_ AS of their security 
> domain/ecosystem and all resource owners need to have an user account with 
> this particular AS. So I would assume the process to start at the RS. We 
> potentially need to cover for both cases. 
> 
> What do you think?
> 
> best regards,
> Torsten.
> 
> Am 26.11.2015 um 00:37 schrieb Mike Jones:
>> I’m pleased to announce that Nat Sakimura, John Bradley, and I have created 
>> an OAuth 2.0 Discovery specification.  This fills a hole in the current 
>> OAuth specification set that is necessary to achieve interoperability.  
>> Indeed, the Interoperability section of OAuth 2.0  
>> <https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6749#section-1.8>states:
>> In addition, this specification leaves a few required components partially 
>> or fully undefined (e.g., client registration, authorization server 
>> capabilities, endpoint discovery).  Without these components, clients must 
>> be manually and specifically configured against a specific authorization 
>> server and resource server in order to interoperate.
>>  
>> This framework was designed with the clear expectation that future work will 
>> define prescriptive profiles and extensions necessary to achieve full 
>> web-scale interoperability.
>>  
>> This specification enables discovery of both endpoint locations and 
>> authorization server capabilities.
>>  
>> This specification is based upon the already widely deployed OpenID Connect 
>> Discovery 1.0 <http://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-discovery-1_0.html> 
>> specification and is compatible with it, by design.  The OAuth Discovery 
>> spec removes the portions of OpenID Connect Discovery that are OpenID 
>> specific and adds metadata values for Revocation and Introspection 
>> endpoints.  It also maps OpenID concepts, such as OpenID Provider, Relying 
>> Party, End-User, and Issuer to their OAuth underpinnings, respectively 
>> Authorization Server, Client, Resource Owner, and the newly introduced 
>> Configuration Information Location.  Some identifiers with names that appear 
>> to be OpenID specific were retained for compatibility purposes; despite the 
>> reuse of these identifiers that appear to be OpenID specific, their usage in 
>> this specification is actually referring to general OAuth 2.0 features that 
>> are not specific to OpenID Connect.
>>  
>> The specification is available at:
>> ·          
>> <http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-jones-oauth-discovery-00>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-jones-oauth-discovery-00
>>  <http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-jones-oauth-discovery-00>
>>  
>> An HTML-formatted version is also available at:
>> ·         http://self-issued.info/docs/draft-jones-oauth-discovery-00.html 
>> <http://self-issued.info/docs/draft-jones-oauth-discovery-00.html>
>>  
>>                                                                 -- Mike
>>  
>> P.S.  This note was also posted at http://self-issued.info/?p=1496 
>> <http://self-issued.info/?p=1496> and as @selfissued 
>> <https://twitter.com/selfissued>.
>> 
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