Om Richard,

 

Bisa dilihat di jsx.co.id kok.......atau kalau gak bisa akses juga
tanya aja ke bangku sebelah J

 

Cheers,

 

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of RichardMux
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 8:57 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Harga wajar saham

 

Pak Karno, 

Terimakasih buat sharing anda namun saya ada 1 perusahaan, gimana ya
caranya tau jumlah lembar saham yg beredar di pasaran?

Cheers, Richard.

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of karno....@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 9:25 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Harga wajar saham

 

Ikutan sharing
Company valuation simpy = Present value of expected streams of earning
after discounted of cost of capital (setelah dikurangi biaya
modal/bunga) 
Pengertian earning di sini adalah net (laba bersih)

Di sini sebagai contoh saya ambil penghasilan 10 tahun, pada
kenyataannya tergantung mau hitung berapa tahun, ini hanya untuk
memudahkan perhitungan.
Misal proyeksi laba bersih perusahaan A =
tahun 1 = 100milyar
tahun 2 = 125milyar
tahun 3 = 140milyar
Tahun 4 s/d 10 = 150milyar. 
Cost of capital (pendekatan bunga di sini = bunga pinjaman) kita anggap
= 15%
Jumlah saham beredar =500 juta lembar.

Maka nilai prsh =
Thn 1 = 100m/(1,15)^1 = 87m
Thn 2 = 125m/(1,15)^2= 95m
Thn 3 = 140m/(1,15)^3 = 92m
Thn 4 = 86m dst
maka total present value s/d tahun ke 10 = 684miliar.

Harga saham sendiri secara sederhana = nilai perusahaan/jumlah saham
beredar. Jadi nilai saham prsh A/lembarnya= 684m/500jt = 1368

Pada kenyataannya biaya bunga tidak flat setiap tahunnya, begitu juga
memprediksi laba (apalagi berbasis komoditi :) tidak mudah.

Pendekatan ini agak berbeda dgn yg ditulis Miss El terutama dalam 2 hal
yakni earning vs deviden dan bunga deposito vs bunga pinjaman.
Dari sudut pandang investor hitungan nona Elaine tidak salah. 
Menggiurkan sekali, kalau investasi saham bisa menghasilkan deviden
sebesar bunga deposito.

Cheers,

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From: "jsx_consultant" 
Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 17:07:51 -0000
To: <obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Harga wajar saham

Ini rumus Gordon Growth Model:

Price = Deviden / (Expected Return-Expected Growth)

Expected Growth dianggap nol, lagi RESESI.

Dulu kan diajarin kang okoy... hehehe...

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com> , Elaine Sui <elainesu...@...>

wrote:
>
> *Listen to me. I'll explain this as simple as possible. Okay? 
First, you
> must BUY now. That's all. lol..[?] okay seriously, you should 
consider
> comparing stocks' DPR (dividend/price ratio) vs RFRR (Risk free 
rate of
> return) or simply the average bank deposit rate + 1% spread.
> 
> Dividend/Price Ratio should NEVER be allowed to go above RFR ratio.
> (otherwise it's undervalued)
> 
> Example:
> Let's say a stock price is 1000. The dividend forecast is around 
100. That
> makes the DPR = 100/1000=10%. while the current risk free rate of 
return
> (RFRR) is only at 8%
> 
> You see the DPR is higher than the current RFRR. So, the stock 
price MAY
> adjust itself to have 8% DPR, means the stock price' fair value 
would be
> around 100/8% = 1250. So the stock may advance around 25% from 1000 
(to
> 1250) usually until the dividend is paid.
> 
> Let's say for other stock, the dividend forecast is only 10. That 
makes the
> DPR = 10/1000=1%, this means the stock price is way too high 
compared to its
> dividend. So the stock price MAY plunge to 10/8%= 125 at worst, 
usually soon
> after the dividend is paid.
> 
> Case 1:
> BUMI. On June 2008, BUMI price was 8000. The announced
> 
<http://economy.okezone.com/index.php/ReadStory/2008/06/12/21/118016/b
umi-bagi-dividen-usd317-jt>dividend
> was 111, and RFRR is, let's say, 8%. The simple calculation would 
be 111/8%
> = 13xx. That'd be the fair value of BUMI.
> 
> Case 2:
> INCO. On Nov 1, 2007, INCO announced
> <http://www.antara.co.id/en/arc/2007/11/1/pt-inco-tbk-approves-an-
interim-2007-dividend-of-09787-per-share/>that
> it'd pay a dividend of $1 or around IDR 9000. INCO was 100k/share. 
The RFRR
> is 8%, so INCO had a chance to rise to 9000/8% = 112k before the 
dividend is
> finally paid. But the nickel price was already plunged at that 
time, so the
> next dividend forecast fell, and so did the price. The latest 
dividend cmiiw
> was around $0.2, that makes current fair value of INCO is around 
25xx.
> 
> I made you confused, didn't I..? [?] this post makes me 
less 'mysterious' lol
> wth.. I guess you'd love to have a night class with Elaine.. [?] 
j/k..
> 
> Elaine
> *
> 2009/1/4 Richard S <richard...@...>
> 
> > Para Suhu2x yg saya hormati.. saya sebagai newbi punya pertanyan
> > fundamental mohon bimbingannya ..
> > Bagai mana cari tau harga wajar sebuah saham, apakah dia uda 
terlalu mahal
> > untuk di beli ato sudah mura dan boleh di beli?
> > Thanks in advance, Richard.
> >
> > 
> >
>

 

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